Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R56) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain CAI for R56 (home made)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #376  
Old 01-26-2008, 09:02 AM
pillar's Avatar
pillar
pillar is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 748
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
what if you get a filter with an open end or a conical filter and pipe the air from the air pipe directly into the open end?

it would be like that simota filter except wouldnt it be even more breathable?
 
  #377  
Old 01-26-2008, 09:24 PM
RilianMini's Avatar
RilianMini
RilianMini is offline
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dalton, GA
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello everyone, I am fairly new to this forum, and I have read over this thread the best that I could, so if this question has allready been asked/answered, I am sure that I missed it somewhere in the 16 pages that I tried to read.

Anyways, is anyone still running the intake mentioned in the first post. Just removing the factory air-box and adding a filter. If so, how well has it performed over a long period of time? Any ECU/MAF issues?

Also, I have a filter that I bought for another car and didn't use (similar to the K&N's pictured) that has a inner diameter of 3"...is this what I need? If so, is this all I need?

Thanks
 
  #378  
Old 01-26-2008, 11:41 PM
pillar's Avatar
pillar
pillar is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 748
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by augustburnsred11
Hello everyone, I am fairly new to this forum, and I have read over this thread the best that I could, so if this question has allready been asked/answered, I am sure that I missed it somewhere in the 16 pages that I tried to read.

Anyways, is anyone still running the intake mentioned in the first post. Just removing the factory air-box and adding a filter. If so, how well has it performed over a long period of time? Any ECU/MAF issues?

Also, I have a filter that I bought for another car and didn't use (similar to the K&N's pictured) that has a inner diameter of 3"...is this what I need? If so, is this all I need?

Thanks
you are going to need the filter and possibly a 3 inch t-bolt clamp.

about the issues... i believe someone out there was having issues with the oil from the filter getting on to the MAF sensor. That can be fixed by using a special MAF cleaner or something.
 

Last edited by pillar; 01-26-2008 at 11:44 PM.
  #379  
Old 01-27-2008, 11:49 AM
minipete07's Avatar
minipete07
minipete07 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The elbow has to be used to not throw offthe flow of air for the MAF
 
  #380  
Old 01-27-2008, 01:53 PM
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
ltjpunk7 is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by minipete07
The elbow has to be used to not throw offthe flow of air for the MAF
Really? This is the first I've heard of such a thing. I thought it would actually be better without the elbow due to less turbulance in the airflow.
 
  #381  
Old 01-27-2008, 01:55 PM
minipete07's Avatar
minipete07
minipete07 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
delete
 

Last edited by minipete07; 01-27-2008 at 02:01 PM. Reason: delete
  #382  
Old 01-27-2008, 01:59 PM
minipete07's Avatar
minipete07
minipete07 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bartbojo
Those of you with this mod...might find the Alta quote I dug up on this thread very informational.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...=108300&page=2
Check this out link out...it explains it all.... it's talked about after post #208in this thread...
 

Last edited by minipete07; 01-27-2008 at 02:04 PM.
  #383  
Old 01-27-2008, 06:09 PM
RilianMini's Avatar
RilianMini
RilianMini is offline
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dalton, GA
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks minipete07! So either I need the proper elbow or an Alta...

Well I just had that filter laying around, so I guess I'll wait a while...besides Im still in break-in, and I want to remain in G-Stock for autocross...

I've never put a high-flow filter in a stock box before...do these help at all with power? Would they allow you to hear the psst everyone is looking for?
 

Last edited by RilianMini; 01-27-2008 at 06:10 PM. Reason: can't spell lol
  #384  
Old 01-28-2008, 12:11 PM
ENGINE 58's Avatar
ENGINE 58
ENGINE 58 is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: florida
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ive got the alta panel filter and i would say yes it does help. i ran with the stock filter a few days ago and you can tell a difference. its not like a big power boost but you can tell the flow is better.
 
  #385  
Old 01-28-2008, 03:42 PM
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
ltjpunk7 is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If anybody is curious, I called Alta to price their intake in separate parts just because I wouldn't mind having their shroud (the black piece in between the filter and the elbow) but would like to save the money and buy the rest. The shroud alone was $210 and the filter alone was $80! Looks like if you want their parts you gotta just buy the intake.
 
  #386  
Old 01-28-2008, 03:49 PM
twin scroll's Avatar
twin scroll
twin scroll is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: MIAMI, FLORIDA
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey Engine 58 I have the tru flow and love the sounds. MINIPETE07 helped me with my set up ! I am going to leave it in I dont think you can have too much air! I do agree the sound with a 9" filter is not for everyone. As always "KEEP MOTORIN"!
 
  #387  
Old 01-28-2008, 04:33 PM
ENGINE 58's Avatar
ENGINE 58
ENGINE 58 is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: florida
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
cool twin scroll. yeah the true flow is a well made filter.
 
  #388  
Old 01-28-2008, 04:36 PM
ENGINE 58's Avatar
ENGINE 58
ENGINE 58 is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: florida
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
it makes all kinds of whisles and spishhh and all that stuff but at cruising speed its quiet. i still have it on. i can live with it. just need to try the k&n to see if its what i need. i need to get the downpipe , g bush should be able to help with that this summer.$ tax time is here.
 

Last edited by ENGINE 58; 01-29-2008 at 03:03 AM. Reason: spelling
  #389  
Old 01-28-2008, 05:30 PM
SlowB00st's Avatar
SlowB00st
SlowB00st is offline
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ltjpunk7
If anybody is curious, I called Alta to price their intake in separate parts just because I wouldn't mind having their shroud (the black piece in between the filter and the elbow) but would like to save the money and buy the rest. The shroud alone was $210 and the filter alone was $80! Looks like if you want their parts you gotta just buy the intake.
Filter alone was $45 when they posted this https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=filter+alta Most likely they say it that way so you buy the intake.
 
  #390  
Old 01-28-2008, 07:27 PM
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
ltjpunk7 is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SlowB00st
Filter alone was $45 when they posted this https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=filter+alta Most likely they say it that way so you buy the intake.
We got hosed, Tommy...we got hosed...

Do you guys know anwhere else to buy a UNI filter or a similar one to this for a cheaper price? I'd like to go with a good quality foam filter, so if I can't find another I might just go with the ALTA filter shown above...that is, unless they want me to pay $80.
 
  #391  
Old 01-28-2008, 08:22 PM
MiniJayhawk's Avatar
MiniJayhawk
MiniJayhawk is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Installed mine tonight. Basically the same as th3118's setup except my filter is red. I also used Silliconeintakes.com for the reducing 90 degree bend and coupler. I used finger screw hose clamps and they worked great after a test run.

Filter housing off:


Looking down the mouth of the MAF:



I bent down the lower edge of the scopp opening to allow more airflow. It is easy if you take your time.



Looking into the scoop with the larger opening (bent sheet metal from last photo) and the red mesh I installed. I have a light back there that shows the air path better inthe next photo.



Flourescent lamp on where the airbox base is, and where the cone filter will sit. Direct shot of outsode air.



Open box showing the stock air supply opening into the box. This sits directly under the cone filter.



Spectre 9" filter. $34 at O'Reilly's. Silconeintakes 90 reducer and coupler. Finger tightening hose clamps.



Filter installed and tied down with large zip tie. It will rattle around without this.





Flourescent light on again next to the filter to show air path through scoop. Bad photo but you can see the red filter.


Took it for a spin and it really wasn't much louder. It did feel good to the butt dyno. Opening up the throttle from about 3200 RPM was a better kick in the pants than stock. I did notice the blowoff hiss! Altogether a great project for the money.
 
  #392  
Old 01-28-2008, 09:02 PM
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
ltjpunk7 is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Great pictures, Jayhawk! Good to see a fellow Kansas Citian taking his car into his own hands. My car is currently at RevLine Motors at 18th and Troost getting a custom exhaust built.
 
  #393  
Old 01-28-2008, 09:04 PM
RilianMini's Avatar
RilianMini
RilianMini is offline
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dalton, GA
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
*delete*

nevermind....the idea i just had would not work...
 

Last edited by RilianMini; 01-28-2008 at 09:08 PM.
  #394  
Old 01-28-2008, 09:04 PM
MiniJayhawk's Avatar
MiniJayhawk
MiniJayhawk is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ltjpunk7 -- Do you post on the KC Mini Club forum? I am gauging interest for the BMW Club DE at Heartland Park in late summer. Would love to see you out there.
 
  #395  
Old 01-28-2008, 09:38 PM
MCS07MGM's Avatar
MCS07MGM
MCS07MGM is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Montgomery AL
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Home builders of CAIs might want to check out work done years ago by Shawn Fogg for the 1.9 liter Z3. The pics in this thread are remarkably similar to those shown at this link:

[FONT=Arial]http://www.mz3.net/articles/149.html[/FONT]
 
  #396  
Old 01-29-2008, 06:21 AM
MiniJayhawk's Avatar
MiniJayhawk
MiniJayhawk is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good catch. I remember the Fogg solution from my Z3 days. A little different dynamic regarding where the box is located, but similar goal in mind. The temps dropped about 25 degrees overnight and the car really came alive on the way to work this morning from a sound and butt dyno standpoint. Great growl, but not boy racer cheesy. Now I just need to rob a bank to get the downtube and exhaust upgrades.
 
  #397  
Old 01-29-2008, 06:41 AM
chili_red07's Avatar
chili_red07
chili_red07 is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,004
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
where did you get the scoop insert?

 
  #398  
Old 01-29-2008, 07:32 AM
MiniJayhawk's Avatar
MiniJayhawk
MiniJayhawk is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aluminum gutter guard from the local hardware store. Cut to size and formed around the opening. Primed and painted red. I wanted slightly larger openings but this gives pretty good flow.
 
  #399  
Old 01-29-2008, 08:39 AM
ltjpunk7's Avatar
ltjpunk7
ltjpunk7 is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by MiniJayhawk
ltjpunk7 -- Do you post on the KC Mini Club forum? I am gauging interest for the BMW Club DE at Heartland Park in late summer. Would love to see you out there.
Yeah, I visit there every once in awhile, but the thing is, I'm still awaiting confirmation on my account. I never got it, even after e-mailing the admins, but I can't re-sign up because it says my e-mail is in use. So I don't post.
 
  #400  
Old 01-30-2008, 09:15 AM
byhsu's Avatar
byhsu
byhsu is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is it better to use a dryflow filter or one that uses oil?

I am cosidering the AEM 9" short neck filter or the spectre that is similar in size but uses oil.

Thanks
 


Quick Reply: Drivetrain CAI for R56 (home made)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:52 AM.