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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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makes sense to use a large tank...but then it would take more time to fill the tank initially, no?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Well... I suppose you can use a smaller tank and then stop in the middle of a job, re-fill the tank and then start again.

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BTW, considering this one:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...&cm_ite=123008
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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yah, i like that dual can setup.

was kinda cracking up about the "93–95dB noise level" thing they have there. 93-95dB @ 1mile distance.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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You think it will be that loud ?

Am I going to want to put that in my neighbor's garage and get a 200 foot hose ?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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no idea but compressors are pretty noisy in general. It's refreshing when it stops.

since you have a large garage you're probably ok though.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
no idea but compressors are pretty noisy in general. It's refreshing when it stops.

since you have a large garage you're probably ok though.
I don't have a large garage... two car, yes, but not large. My tiled area is 15' x 17'. Not big. And the untiled area is only 17 x 3 feet. So... add the two, divide by.... just a little over 300 sf.

Maybe I'll drill a hole through the outside wall of the garage, put the compressor outside, and then......
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Yeah, those small compressors are LOUD.

I have one kinda like this:


It's actually much quieter than the small ones. But still loud...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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wow, that's a studly can you got there blimey.


i suppose you can put the compressor in an enclosure with some sound proofing but that enclosure will become smaller and smaller as the compressor sucks in the air.

how about one of these? isolation wall... only $599.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Initially yes, but who says you have to be in the garage when it's filling? lol.
Besides, once you've set the pressure to the desired level, it'll maintain it..instead of thinking that you fill the tank 100% and wait until it's empty to refill.
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makes sense to use a large tank...but then it would take more time to fill the tank initially, no?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Initially yes, but who says you have to be in the garage when it's filling? lol.
Besides, once you've set the pressure to the desired level, it'll maintain it..instead of thinking that you fill the tank 100% and wait until it's empty to refill.
Richard, In doing my research, I read some reviews that said the tanks rusted out from moisture build up and recommended you empty the tank if it's going to be some time between uses.

I'll probably use mine once a week to blow the water from the nooks and crannies of the MINIs.

So... do I need to empty it out occassionally, or just keep using it and wait until it's empty to refill ?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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CR&PW&JB- i just use my shopvac in blower mode to dry my car.... $0.
no drying or emptying needed either.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Initially yes, but who says you have to be in the garage when it's filling? lol.
Besides, once you've set the pressure to the desired level, it'll maintain it..instead of thinking that you fill the tank 100% and wait until it's empty to refill.
if it's that smart why can't they make a quieter one?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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I really don't know. It's not like I can open the tank and look inside to check the rust. My tank is used several times a week. Once you have air, you'll find other uses, like blowing dust from the interior and the engine bay and topping the air of your tires and once you start zipping the lug bolts off with an air tool...it just keeps going, lol.

There is a moisture drain valve on my tank, and I do run moisture filters on the lines to prevent moisture from getting into the air supply.


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Richard, In doing my research, I read some reviews that said the tanks rusted out from moisture build up and recommended you empty the tank if it's going to be some time between uses.

I'll probably use mine once a week to blow the water from the nooks and crannies of the MINIs.

So... do I need to empty it out occassionally, or just keep using it and wait until it's empty to refill ?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
CR&PW&JB- i just use my shopvac in blower mode to dry my car.... $0.
no drying or emptying needed either.
What's that have, 8 PSI ?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
I really don't know. It's not like I can open the tank and look inside to check the rust. My tank is used several times a week. Once you have air, you'll find other uses, like blowing dust from the interior and the engine bay and topping the air of your tires and once you start zipping the lug bolts off with an air tool...it just keeps going, lol.

There is a moisture drain valve on my tank, and I do run moisture filters on the lines to prevent moisture from getting into the air supply.
I should have just asked if you have any problems with your tank rusting.

I thought Ken was the only smart *** around here.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Hahah, what do you expect, it's a Detailing Forum.

It's been 2+ years, and no issues with rust. I don't expect the compressor to last forever, but on the otherhand, a replacement tank is a lot less than replacing the whole compressor.

Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
I should have just asked if you have any problems with your tank rusting.

I thought Ken was the only smart *** around here.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
What's that have, 8 PSI ?
not sure about the PSI, but with the conal shaped blower nozzle things can get pretty strong.

Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
I should have just asked if you have any problems with your tank rusting.

I thought Ken was the only smart *** around here.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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hey, i sold my old legacy's floor mats today.
ive had them for like 2yrs doing nothing.

i still have a set of 06 civic sedan factory floor mats
that i want to sell for like $20.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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My big tank stays pressurized ALL THE TIME, just like most do at most shops. It DOES collect water over time, and I drain it periodically. Yes, it's brown water from the rust. This will drive someone like ChiliPepJet crazy most likely... but rusting from the inside out is what air tanks do... they are an expendable item... though I expect mine will last for MANY years before it finally yields. The one on our farm is at least 40 years old and it hasn't failed yet.

It's REALLY nice to have 100+ PSI available in UNLIMITED quantities whenever desired. With my sculpture studio, I use lots of air tools that suck massive amounts of air. Also air brushes and spray guns and impact wrenches and plasma cutter and and and and....

Mine is in the corner of my garage, and I DID build a sound deadening enclosure for it. It's not sealed (nor is it intended to be - it would overheat the motor and pump), but I enclosed it in a heavy 3/4" MDF box lined with carpet padding foam. It absorb A LOT of the noise, especially the annoying frequencies, but you still hear that big pump pumping when it's on. Lots of room for air to circulate around it and in and out of the enclosure.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the straight-forward, non smart-*** reply, Paul.

And thanks also for the backhanded compliment on my OCD illness.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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CR&PW&JB- my shopvac in blower mode was not a smart-*** reply.

oh wait, the $0 part.... ok.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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blimey- you make sculptures? i think we need to see some picts.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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wow, beatiful work.

so this is your primary occupation?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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A good way to build a soundproofing enclosure, is to build a frame out of 2x4s, use sound insulation batts to fill the voids, this will knock down high frequencies, then skin both inside, and outside with 5/8"drywall, or similar dense panel, to knock down the low frequencies. You can use cheap furnace filters to let air in through an opening.

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