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Front edge of top not seated evenly - R52S

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Old 02-18-2024, 02:47 PM
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Front edge of top not seated evenly - R52S

My daughter complained that she was getting water weeping into the interior when driving in the rain. It was coming in at the top right edge (viewed from the interior. On the US passenger side) of the windshield. After reviewing several threads here, and the convertible top guide that was linked, too, I tried a couple of different options this morning.

First, I made sure the drain passages and holes of the top edge through to the side of the windshield trim were clear of any debris (they were). I blew them out with compressed air.

Next, I tried adjusting the top by removing the "sunroof" motor and aligning the front-right of the top to be even with the front-left and then reinstalling the motor.

No luck - the top is still misaligned at the front edge (see the below pictures):




When I work the sunroof open/close, it seems like the right side mechanism stops moving a little before the left side - like the mechanism isn't making the full rotation to push the edge of the top tight against the seal. When closing, the right side stops moving before the left finishes, and when opening, the left side moves before the right.

Thanks for any BTDT advice.
 

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Yep i did that trick when mine was off. Adjusted both side. The cables can sometimes get stuck and the motor can damage the green coil rod that these are made of. When that happens the sunroof will move fwd and then stop at that same point due to the coil being damaged at that point, so it does not pull tight.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nlatching.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ld-header.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...top-issue.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-top-part.html


https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/54347174761/

 
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Thanks for those links - I'll review them all!

I didn't notice any stripping of the coil cables when I removed the motor, but I will double-check that. I'll also try and get a video of how the top travels to its final (a little open) position on that side and post it here.
 
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Glad to help.

Ok, let me know, it should be around the point when its closed, pull the motor and see the cable at that point.
 
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Will do.

I'll also be curious to see the condition of these plastic guide pieces when I take a closer look (here are the pieces I mean, from this post in the threads you linked):
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4658610

I do have a complete spare top to use for parts, if needed. I happened on an R52 in my local u-pull yard a couple of summers ago: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...one-piece.html
 

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Ok, yea those sliders you can only get these: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/54347174763/
And those cables, plus some install hardware kits. Most of the other items are on the cassette you have. Not sold on own.

This is all the parts on you can get for that top with diagrams and part numbers.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...Cooper_S&mg=54
 
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