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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GTECKO
Here are the pdf you wanted
Attachment 55364

Attachment 55365
Well first off thanks for the help you've provided GTECKO by writing the process up and starting this thread. I've tried several versions of NCS code and methods and this finally worked for me. I've managed to code VO $550, the OBC.

PC: Win 7 - 64 bit, windows virtual pc: xp mode
Mini OneD Dec 2011.

Needed to load the V45 datens.

A few observations:

1. INPA showed power, but it offered no chassis to select. Is this standard? Or have I got some files missing? I haven't tried the Ediabas update metioned later in the thread.

2. I looked at various methods to update the VO (as above) and tried the CAS write followed by LM. But I could not see the 2nd module (LM?) and the change didn't appear to take effect.

3. So with some reservation I hit code Car. A long time past with displays flashing and changing... eventually NCSExpert reported an error and aborted.

But so far it looks like it worked I now have MPG and miles to empty displayed And the car still starts

So thanks... but I haven't quite got it right yet!

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Tim.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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The R56 chassis doesn't have the LM module, we have the FRM module. And the Vehicle Order string is stored in both the CAS and FRM modules.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Wow - that was a super quick response!!! Thanks for the info, hopefully that will help somebody else.

Any ideas about getting INPA working? Cheers.

PS key fob Sunroof closing option next
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Yeah, I'll need to figure out what I did to INPA...Somewhere a few months back I found an updated package that got pretty much every module (except engine) to work with INPA! It really is so quick compared to DIS for most functions. I bet I got it on bmwcoding.com.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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http://www.4shared.com/folder/hX4ohKra/INPA_2010.html

this is the link for the updated inpa.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1673155
 
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Old May 31, 2012 | 02:24 AM
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Many thanks for the links will give it a go over the weekend.

PS was good to see the mpg stats as I drove in this morning
 
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Ok guys, got my cable:
http://www.autoscannertool.com/china...an-112144.html

I installed everything perfectly as instructed in the "Mini Cooper Coding" folder downloaded from the first page of this thread.

I'm using a fully updated Mac with fully updated WinXP running via Parallels 7.0.15. Everything is totally fine with the program until it is time for NCS Expert to read the VIN. INPA sees the battery and ignition as on but NCS Expert fails to read the VIN with the error box:

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VIN is faulty
COAIP-2020: no answer from ECU
IFH-0009: ECU not connected or doesn't answer


I've installed with dates V38 as well as V40 both with the same results.

Versions:
INPA: 5.0
NCS Expert: 3.1.0
EDIBAS: 6.4.7

Does anybody know what's going on? I'm trying to modify the 2011 R56 S in my signature.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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Well as you've a 2011, then you could try updating your datens to v45 - worked for me.
http://www.bmwcoding.com/showthread....6X-E7X-E9X-E46
R56 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jw5iktfjjd6ac3z


If that fails you'll have to wait for the experts ;-)
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by calforhelp
Ok guys, got my cable:
http://www.autoscannertool.com/china...an-112144.html

I installed everything perfectly as instructed in the "Mini Cooper Coding" folder downloaded from the first page of this thread.

I'm using a fully updated Mac with fully updated WinXP running via Parallels 7.0.15. Everything is totally fine with the program until it is time for NCS Expert to read the VIN. INPA sees the battery and ignition as on but NCS Expert fails to read the VIN with the error box:


VIN is faulty
COAIP-2020: no answer from ECU
IFH-0009: ECU not connected or doesn't answer


I've installed with dates V38 as well as V40 both with the same results.

Versions:
INPA: 5.0
NCS Expert: 3.1.0
EDIBAS: 6.4.7

Does anybody know what's going on? I'm trying to modify the 2011 R56 S in my signature.
Two things come to mind with your software setup. Ediabas is too old to be used with newer than 2009 cars. You need the 7.5.2 version. I could not read my Frm3 module in my 1 series with 6.4.7. Also, v46.3 daten files are posted up in the SP daten section of www.bmwcoding.com. You can find the BMW tools with Ediabas 7.5.2 and an easy install at www.bmwcoders.com (two different sites). I would reinstall everything (that is what I did) and it should work.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by calforhelp
I'm using a fully updated Mac with fully updated WinXP running via Parallels 7.0.15.
I was wondering if running on a Mac with Parallels would work for coding. I have moved to a Mac since I first coded my MINI. I have Parallels (came with an external drive I ordered from OWC, and I have a sealed copy of XP that I never installed on a computer I built ages ago. If I put these on my Mac, will I be able to create a coding environment that will work?

Thanks,
Danny
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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Danny,
I'm using a MacBook Pro (latest upgrades to OS/X) and running WIN7 Ultimate on Bootcamp without any problems coding MINIs.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by z3bum
You can find the BMW tools with Ediabas 7.5.2 and an easy install at www.bmwcoders.com (two different sites). I would reinstall everything (that is what I did) and it should work.
I found the files you were talking about and did a reinstall. Still getting the same error :(

Also, Parallels seems to work just fine, sans this huge error.
 

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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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I've noticed a lot of the BMW folks saying that pin 8 on their cable has to be disconnected. Something about the car uses pin 8 for ethernet or something and that it messes up the programs if it is connected.

Does anyone have any information on this?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by calforhelp
I found the files you were talking about and did a reinstall. Still getting the same error :(

Also, Parallels seems to work just fine, sans this huge error.
Sorry, In addition to the software being setup wrong, you bought the wrong cable. You need a D-Can cable for One Stop Electronic, $99. The one you bought, clearly states it is for cars older than 2008.


Not sure why people keep trying to buy a cheap cable on Enay for a $25,000+ car. Folks, the wrong cable can damage your car! Why skimp on this? One stop cables have been proven time and again, cs. Cheaper other ones that don't work or could damage modules.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 06:22 AM
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Many thanks for GTECKO for the excellent guide. I got the cable, installed without an issue and coded quite a few things yesterday in my 2010 MCS (comfort close, one-touch sunroof, always display speed).

I have an issue with FRM2 but I saw some options here that I will try today. I still want to prevent window-roll-stop when you open the door and possibly the alarm heartbeat.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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I've never been able to get the change to prevent window roll-up to stop when opening the doors to work, nor the change to allow both high beams and fog lights to be on (in KOMBI, I think). I do have the comfort close and one-touch sunroof changes coded though and I like those changes very much.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Does anybody live in the Denver, CO area that could help me out with this?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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I would appreciate anyone who have access to the spreadsheet to limit themselves with the editing. Basically there is on the year column you should be touching (if its there already, it means it have already tried and it works)
If you have find a new mod and it works, great, feel free to add it.
Please stop deleting my work and the work ppl put in the this spreadsheet, stop edition the wording, the size of the column and all ... it is meant to be that way. I would hate to lock all the cells and have this file only read.
If you want to edit it YOUR way, download it and do what you want on it.
Respect others work.
Thanks
 
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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So I posted a week or so ago and was suggested a new cable. I bought the forum recommended cable.

After getting the new cable, the first attempt to communicate with NCSExpert was slightly better. The program read the VIN but afterwards brought up the error below:
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Every attempt after this resulted in the error below:
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I get these errors wether I have the included adapter on the cable or not.

The cable is the recommended one.
INPA: V5.0.6
NCS-Expert: V3.1.0
EDIBAS: V7.2.0
DATENS: V46.3
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Setup instructions I found in the first post of this thread.
Cable is set to port 4 and 1 for latency, while setting up BMW Tools, I selected port 4.

Any recommendations?

Or is there anyone who would be willing to set BMW Tools up for me via remote desktop?

EDIT:
I just tried again. The only change I made was to add the daten files into a folder named "R56" inside the datens folder on the C drive. I did this and the computer read the car and actually processed the ECU and gave me a FSW_PSW file. I turned the ignition off, in accordance with the instructions, then when trying to connect for a second time in a row to write to the car I, again get the "VIN Faulty" errors.

I did every combination of changing files, uninstalling everything and reinstalling, restarting the computer, EVERYTHING! Absolutely nothing allowed me to reconnect to the car :( This is so frustrating.
 

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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Ok, so I deleted the virtual XP machine and reinstalled it from scratch thinking all of this messing around has messed up some files. I also re-downloaded all of my NCS installation files just to be safe.

So once a fresh version of XP was installed and updated, I followed guide posted HERE word-for-word, very, very carefully.

Still getting the same error:
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Does ANYONE have any idea?! I would love to do a remote desktop session with someone who would be willing to set this up on my computer.

PLEASE HELP MEEEEE!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 04:44 AM
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I saw your post saying that it works on a Mac with Parallels "sans this huge error". I do not remember ever seeing any authoritative posts saying that the coding software actually works on a Mac with Parallels. In fact, I seem to remember seeing posts saying that it wouldn't work because the software couldn't get to the COM port. Maybe this is actually your problem.

When you install all the software, there is a program called INPA that you start by running INPALOAD.exe. One of the guides I used had instructions for creating a shortcut to this program. Have you launched this program and verified that it can actually communicate to the car? If you load this program and it indicates that it can not connect to the car, then NCSExpert is not going to work either. Aside from the question about using Parallels, are you certain that you have made the appropriate COM port available to the VM and configured the coding software to use that same COM port?

Danny
 
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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I'm hoping that using an actual windows machine will work. I'm going to try bootcamp first since that's a little easier for me.

INPA sees the vehicle's battery and ignition as on. I'm 100% sure that the COM ports are set up correctly on the windows side and that when plugging in the cable, it is made available to the VM and not OS X.

I'll try out bootcamp then a PC. I'll report back with my, hopefully positive, findings.

Thanks for the help!
 
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Ok, so I setup bootcamp on my MacBook Air with XP SP3 and set everything up exactly as the instructions on the first page of this thread advise. I used BMW Tools 5.0 and datens V46.3.

On the very first attempt to read and code everything was perfect, the car read perfectly, and it wrote to the .MAN file. But part way through, the car lost connection and when I tried to click, I received the "no answer from ECU" error above. Every further attempt to communicate with the car completely failed and I received the error when trying to read the VIN for the first time.

INPA still reads battery and ignition but NCS Expert has nothing.


Why is this working perfectly the very first time I try it and then dying part way through then never working again!?! It's all just making me unbelievably angry.

Everything HAS to be set up correctly, otherwise I'd never even get it to connect the first time. All of my software HAS to be compatible, otherwise I'd never get it to connect the first time. The computer and car HAVE to be compatible, otherwise I'd never get it to connect the first time. Is there some file that gets created that needs to be deleted every time NCS tries to communicate with the car?

I did notice that when running the laden.bat file most of the commands were giving errors such as "Cannot overwrite file with same name" but I do notice 5 or 6 new files created in the datens folder after running the laden.bat file.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2012 | 04:05 AM
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Unfortunately, I've got nothing else except to say that I am watching this thread with interest. When I coded my car about a year ago, I used XP mode on a ThinkPad running Windows 7. I had occasional communications errors that I could never figure out, but I was able to code most of the things I wanted to customize. Since then, I have started using a MacBook Pro for my personal machine, so I am interested to see if it is actually possible to run the coding tools in a VM on a Mac. As I said in a previous post, I do not remember ever seeing a definitive post from anybody stating that this will work on a Mac.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Last Step , Installing software

Ok , I got to the last step .

4. Finally , copy "REVTOR.PFL" from the "Profile" folder in your working directory into "C:\NCSECPER\PFL" .

I cannot find this REVTOR.PFL file .

The only thing I did different from directions was in Datens , using V38 . After installing . It stated do not copy folders just files inside folder . Well that worked for ECU and SGDAT , but I did not have a folder XXX ( R56) so in this instance I created the folder R56 then copied and pasted the files into this newly created folder so I had the proper string C:\NCSEXPER\DATEN\R56

Ran the LADEN.BAT file . So can anyone tell me what went wrong or where can I find REVTOR.PFL file

Thanks

Update : Think I found it by searching all files . Was in the initial folder created when unrar the NCSexpert program . Done for today will try again when I have some more time.
 

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