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17x8 Enkei RPF1, 45mm offset, 215/45/17 Michelin PSS tires. No rub, No spacers needed with stock 205 runflats, currently using a 3mm hub centric spacer with the slightly wider 215 Michelins
Enkei PF01 17x8 +50 clears the JCW brakes but with a 225-45 the tire rubs on the stock shock and my KW shock. A 5mm spacer will kick it out enough to leave about 3mm of clearance.
The Enkei RPF1 in 17x8 45 or 50 don't show up on Enkei's sizing chart in 5x112. TC1728 has a pic of the box so they do exist. These are crazy light.
Tire rack just added OZ Indy HLT. look sweet.
I’m currently running the stock 18” JCW wheels with 225 40’s front and rear. Just wondering if I ordered these wheels if I would run into caliper fitment issues? Also I plan to lower the car so will that require me to go with a narrower tire to avoid excessive rub?
Recently have been looking into a set of rotiform rse wheels for my f56. Specs would be 18 x 8.5 ET35. Would there be any rubbing at all? Eventually would want to lower it, but wanted to get a set of wheels to see where it sits from there first. Thanks!
I’ve recently bought a Cooper S and it has the 18” Cup Spoke wheels with standard 205/40/18 Pirelli P7’s on (runflats).
I’m not looking to fit aftermarket wheels but I want to remove the runflats and fit a slightly wider tyre. From doing a bit of research I know that 215/40/18s are fine (no rubbing) and there looks to be a lot of clearance in the arches so I’m thinking of trying 225/40/18s. They are about £20 per tyre cheaper too (I’m in the UK).
Has anybody done this on the Cup Spoke wheels? I know the circumference will be about 4% bigger so the speedometer will be slightly out, but I can live with this. I’ve measured the width of the wheels and they are 7.75”, so I presume that’s 7.5l nominal size.
Any help would be much appreciated, somebody must have done it! Suspension is stock, as per Cooper S, not lowered. Pic of current wheels below.
Welcome to the forum & nice looking MINI. I have a 2015 F56 JCW with cup spokes and the same tires as you have.
I’ve researched wheel & tire combinations from the early days of the F56 JCW, and some of my thoughts might not apply to an S, but here goes anyway.
You have cup spoke wheels but unless you know for sure they are likely not the same as the cup spokes on a JCW. The JCW cup spokes are only 7 inches wide which creates some of the fitment problems for optional tire fitment, and the spokes are curved outward more dramatically to clear the Brembos. Make sure your wheels are indeed 7.5 inches wide. Check the specs for your wheels part number.
That being said, and assuming you do not have the JCW Brembo brakes, the 225’s will likely fit fine. If I was to ever change tires I wouldn’t go over 215/40/18’s to avoid rubbing and have plenty of room from the strut.
You could always just do a trial fitment before buying a new set of tires too. But remember, tire sizes vary from manufacturer for the same spec tire, so one 225 tire might rub whereas another make tire might clear fine.
I’m with you though in that I like the fatter rubber on the F56 body style.....the 205’s definitely look skinny, but I still love my stock JCW!
Good luck!
Originally Posted by Daveb99
Hey all, my first post on here so go easy on me
I’ve recently bought a Cooper S and it has the 18” Cup Spoke wheels with standard 205/40/18 Pirelli P7’s on (runflats).
I’m not looking to fit aftermarket wheels but I want to remove the runflats and fit a slightly wider tyre. From doing a bit of research I know that 215/40/18s are fine (no rubbing) and there looks to be a lot of clearance in the arches so I’m thinking of trying 225/40/18s. They are about £20 per tyre cheaper too (I’m in the UK).
Has anybody done this on the Cup Spoke wheels? I know the circumference will be about 4% bigger so the speedometer will be slightly out, but I can live with this. I’ve measured the width of the wheels and they are 7.75”, so I presume that’s 7.5l nominal size.
Any help would be much appreciated, somebody must have done it! Suspension is stock, as per Cooper S, not lowered. Pic of current wheels below.
Last edited by 02fanatic; Aug 15, 2019 at 04:45 AM.
I’ve recently bought a Cooper S and it has the 18” Cup Spoke wheels with standard 205/40/18 Pirelli P7’s on (runflats).
I’m not looking to fit aftermarket wheels but I want to remove the runflats and fit a slightly wider tyre. From doing a bit of research I know that 215/40/18s are fine (no rubbing) and there looks to be a lot of clearance in the arches so I’m thinking of trying 225/40/18s. They are about £20 per tyre cheaper too (I’m in the UK).
Has anybody done this on the Cup Spoke wheels? I know the circumference will be about 4% bigger so the speedometer will be slightly out, but I can live with this. I’ve measured the width of the wheels and they are 7.75”, so I presume that’s 7.5l nominal size.
Any help would be much appreciated, somebody must have done it! Suspension is stock, as per Cooper S, not lowered. Pic of current wheels below.
On stock suspension, you can go wider. 215's are safe, but if you want to go with 225's you may need a small spacer depending on the tire.
I’ve recently bought a Cooper S and it has the 18” Cup Spoke wheels with standard 205/40/18 Pirelli P7’s on (runflats).
I’m not looking to fit aftermarket wheels but I want to remove the runflats and fit a slightly wider tyre. From doing a bit of research I know that 215/40/18s are fine (no rubbing) and there looks to be a lot of clearance in the arches so I’m thinking of trying 225/40/18s. They are about £20 per tyre cheaper too (I’m in the UK).
Has anybody done this on the Cup Spoke wheels? I know the circumference will be about 4% bigger so the speedometer will be slightly out, but I can live with this. I’ve measured the width of the wheels and they are 7.75”, so I presume that’s 7.5l nominal size.
Any help would be much appreciated, somebody must have done it! Suspension is stock, as per Cooper S, not lowered. Pic of current wheels below.
Somehow I find it hard to find info on this. I installed michelin pilot sport4 225/40/18 on stock jcw cup spoke wheels and has no rubbing at all. hope this helps
Looking for thoughts on fitting some 18x8 +50 or 18x8.5 +42 Volk Te37 Sagas on my F56. I've seen some on another F56 here. But the OP never listed his specs and hasn't been active since 2017 so I and others are kinda left to guess. These two sizes are the most plausible but I have doubts they'll fit even though pictures say otherwise.
18x8 +50 sits 8.7mm closer to the strut and pokes 16.7mm further than my current 17x7 +54 OEM wheels. This is the size I'm leaning towards but spacers will certainly be needed. Especially if going with aftermarket suspension as there's only like 8mm between my tire and the strut as it is now.
18x8.5 +42 sits 7.1mm closer to the strut and pokes 31.1mm. This is the size that another user thinks it is and is the same size I've seen listed on at least one other site with pictures of the same car.
It's been a while since I've read through this whole wheel fitment thread but isn't 30mm poking outside the fender a fair amount? 31.1mm+ a few mm more for a spacer to clear the strut has got to be too much. And his car doesn't look like it's poking. It looks like the tires are tucking a little bit. I love these wheels but I'm not sure if I can get a good fitment with them. I might have to switch over to some 3-piece Work wheels as I plan to lower a good amount ~2-3". Any thoughts on these wheels?
Be careful with those online fitment tools. I measured the available space between the tire/wheel to front strut on my JCW with Pro suspension: rim to strut = 6 mm, tire to strut = 5 mm. Below is a pic with an Allen key squeezed in the gap.
The online calculators may say something fits when it obviously won't. The math works out for a 18x7.5 49mm offset rim will maintain the same backspacing to the strut. i.e. an 18x8.5 would need a 36 mm offset to maintain the back space. There's a few mm the rim could move towards the strut but not much. Let us now what you end up getting.
The Volk Te37 looks like it pokes out past the fender to me.
Looking for thoughts on fitting some 18x8 +50 or 18x8.5 +42 Volk Te37 Sagas on my F56. I've seen some on another F56 here. But the OP never listed his specs and hasn't been active since 2017 so I and others are kinda left to guess. These two sizes are the most plausible but I have doubts they'll fit even though pictures say otherwise.
18x8 +50 sits 8.7mm closer to the strut and pokes 16.7mm further than my current 17x7 +54 OEM wheels. This is the size I'm leaning towards but spacers will certainly be needed. Especially if going with aftermarket suspension as there's only like 8mm between my tire and the strut as it is now.
18x8.5 +42 sits 7.1mm closer to the strut and pokes 31.1mm. This is the size that another user thinks it is and is the same size I've seen listed on at least one other site with pictures of the same car.
It's been a while since I've read through this whole wheel fitment thread but isn't 30mm poking outside the fender a fair amount? 31.1mm+ a few mm more for a spacer to clear the strut has got to be too much. And his car doesn't look like it's poking. It looks like the tires are tucking a little bit. I love these wheels but I'm not sure if I can get a good fitment with them. I might have to switch over to some 3-piece Work wheels as I plan to lower a good amount ~2-3". Any thoughts on these wheels?
I may be the other user you are referring to and can tell you with 100% certainty that those TE37s are 18x8.5 ET42 with 225/40/18s. He's active on IG and we have spoken in the past about his setup. I am running the exact same setup in terms of specs on a different set of wheels. Check out my IG (link in my signature) for more pics of how that setup fits.
One thing to consider is when you are saying it pokes 30 whatever mm.... that is in comparison to the stock setup you are comparing to. It does not mean that the setup is poking 30 mm beyond the arch but that the outer face of the wheel is 30 mm further from the hub than the stock fitment. Stock wheels have a significant amount of tuck under the fender. With that in mind, YES, it does poke but not to a crazy degree.
Depending on your suspension setup, you may find yourself kissing the struts. I am running JCW PRO coilovers, as low as they go, and found black tire marks on my front struts. No damage to inner wheel lip nor sidewall, so I assume it was only touching during hard cornering. There was no apparent rubbing on suspension during normal driving however the clearance is essentially non-existent. I also chewed up the inside edges of my fender arches in both the front and the rear.
I recently fitted the JCW BBK and had to run a 5 mm spacer up front to clear. I am now poking a bit more (again, it still isn't a CRAZY amount). Here's two pics showing the fitment. Hope this helps.
I may be the other user you are referring to and can tell you with 100% certainty that those TE37s are 18x8.5 ET42 with 225/40/18s. He's active on IG and we have spoken in the past about his setup. I am running the exact same setup in terms of specs on a different set of wheels. Check out my IG (link in my signature) for more pics of how that setup fits.
One thing to consider is when you are saying it pokes 30 whatever mm.... that is in comparison to the stock setup you are comparing to. It does not mean that the setup is poking 30 mm beyond the arch but that the outer face of the wheel is 30 mm further from the hub than the stock fitment. Stock wheels have a significant amount of tuck under the fender. With that in mind, YES, it does poke but not to a crazy degree.
Depending on your suspension setup, you may find yourself kissing the struts. I am running JCW PRO coilovers, as low as they go, and found black tire marks on my front struts. No damage to inner wheel lip nor sidewall, so I assume it was only touching during hard cornering. There was no apparent rubbing on suspension during normal driving however the clearance is essentially non-existent. I also chewed up the inside edges of my fender arches in both the front and the rear.
I recently fitted the JCW BBK and had to run a 5 mm spacer up front to clear. I am now poking a bit more (again, it still isn't a CRAZY amount). Here's two pics showing the fitment. Hope this helps.
Your post helps massively! Thank you. My plan is to bag the car. Not sure if I'll go straight to bags or do a set of BC coils in the meantime as a stopgap just to get the car lower and then do bags when I've got the money for them. As far as height goes this is what I'm trying to do.
So I'll need to be tucking and I don't see the 8.5" wheel being able to do that without more negative camber than I'd like.
Your post helps massively! Thank you. My plan is to bag the car. Not sure if I'll go straight to bags or do a set of BC coils in the meantime as a stopgap just to get the car lower and then do bags when I've got the money for them. As far as height goes this is what I'm trying to do.
So I'll need to be tucking and I don't see the 8.5" wheel being able to do that without more negative camber than I'd like.
Happy to help! I agree, you're not going to be able to pull off that slammed look with out a TON of negative camber with those wheel specs. My guess is you're probably better off looking at a 7.5" wide wheel, not sure about offset.
And for the love of god, please buy a skid plate . I cracked my oil pan at my height and it turned into a full motor replacement thanks to breaking the pan mounting points on the block. Not an enjoyable experience, 0/5 stars, would not recommend.
Happy to help! I agree, you're not going to be able to pull off that slammed look with out a TON of negative camber with those wheel specs. My guess is you're probably better off looking at a 7.5" wide wheel, not sure about offset.
And for the love of god, please buy a skid plate . I cracked my oil pan at my height and it turned into a full motor replacement thanks to breaking the pan mounting points on the block. Not an enjoyable experience, 0/5 stars, would not recommend.
I will for sure be getting a skid plate. I know Rennline makes one for the F56. I had talked with the owner of the bagged MINI and she actually lost the car because she cracked the oil pan and didn't realize it until it was too late. Insurance totaled the car and she didn't have enough money to rebuild so she had to let it go.
As far as wheels go there are a set of Volk TE37 that are 18x7.5 +47. But they're the Time Attack edition so they're black with red pinstripes instead of bronze. Would it be sacrilegious to powder coat them bronze? Lol
I will for sure be getting a skid plate. I know Rennline makes one for the F56. I had talked with the owner of the bagged MINI and she actually lost the car because she cracked the oil pan and didn't realize it until it was too late. Insurance totaled the car and she didn't have enough money to rebuild so she had to let it go.
As far as wheels go there are a set of Volk TE37 that are 18x7.5 +47. But they're the Time Attack edition so they're black with red pinstripes instead of bronze. Would it be sacrilegious to powder coat them bronze? Lol
Yup, I have the Rennline one and it's a very nice piece. That's a shame about her car. Modifications, especially going real low, are always a gamble that rarely pay off. My car was almost totaled as well but I was able to work with my adjuster and get the max payout without totaling with the understanding that the rest, which was a lot (but also included upgrades), was coming out of my pocket. Still sorting out some leftover issues from that whole situation but I'm thankful I was able to get it repaired and upgraded beyond what it was before. Considering what I've put into it and the fact that I have ONE payment left on it, losing the car just wasn't an option for me.
As far as powdercoating those TE37s... I say go for it!
Going off topic here, but interested that your insurance paid for an accident that was caused by aftermarket mods. Curious how that works.
...and I vote blasphemy to powder coat those TE37s! Haha. The matte black with red stripes is just so nice. I'm a huge fan of bronze, but when the wheels are already an amazing color, nah. So that size is made only in that color? Maybe an awesome dealer would be able to work with them and get a custom color? Dunno how Volk is with that stuff. What about running 5x114 with wobble bolts? I'd rather do that and get the wheels in Volk's own bronze finish.
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. I cracked my oil pan at my height and it turned into a full motor replacement thanks to breaking the pan mounting points on the block. Not an enjoyable experience, 0/5 stars, would not recommend.