R56 New Mini Cooper Intake from AEM
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From: Southern California
Thank god I am not a Zen teacher since this is America and all.
There are plenty of dyno charts to support it, youre basing yours off one dyno chart from AEM.. and most likely the stock dyno was a dirty filter so those gains were merely from putting in a new filter.
No I have no desire to purchase the AEM product since I can find no reason to spend money on a fancy filter when I am off working on making bigger turbos work on my car. But thanks, I can tell you that AEM basically took a stock airbox put a fancy filter, added a pretty heat shield and are now charging you up the *** for it.
Please tell me how AEM's R&D guys are so much smarter than the guys at MINI/Puegoet who designed the engine and car. Those engineers must be pretty dumb.. come on.. seriously use your head. RMWs site has plenty on this. Its not like this intake is going to magically get more air into your cylinder as its metered and its an FI car.
And with tuning (the only way to get real gains from our bolt ons) its been shown the stock airbox always makes more power than the aftermarket ones.
So $350 for some sound is about all you are doing. So high five good job, zen all mofukken day in this.
There are plenty of dyno charts to support it, youre basing yours off one dyno chart from AEM.. and most likely the stock dyno was a dirty filter so those gains were merely from putting in a new filter.
No I have no desire to purchase the AEM product since I can find no reason to spend money on a fancy filter when I am off working on making bigger turbos work on my car. But thanks, I can tell you that AEM basically took a stock airbox put a fancy filter, added a pretty heat shield and are now charging you up the *** for it.
Please tell me how AEM's R&D guys are so much smarter than the guys at MINI/Puegoet who designed the engine and car. Those engineers must be pretty dumb.. come on.. seriously use your head. RMWs site has plenty on this. Its not like this intake is going to magically get more air into your cylinder as its metered and its an FI car.
And with tuning (the only way to get real gains from our bolt ons) its been shown the stock airbox always makes more power than the aftermarket ones.
So $350 for some sound is about all you are doing. So high five good job, zen all mofukken day in this.
BTW, that link was to some engineering report they did and not a dyno chart, so it's clear you never even looked at it. Reading is your friend.
And tell me, what do you think about the DDM intake? It looks pretty good to me too. What if I bought an intake AND tuned my car? No one said you have buy an intake BTW, just no need to get mad at others who are thinking about it.
Last edited by Classic_Engr; Jul 6, 2012 at 01:06 PM.
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Then you would see similar to lower power than if you were on a stock airbox with a panel filter.
Even tuning isnt going to make the intake any better than the stock one really.. the stock one pulls in fresh cool air from the front of the car. The AEM almost looks like a ram air.. but you cant ram air into a turbo'd car, its similar to the alta one, just has a box around it. Its almost identical to the stock one with aems little perks.
I mean do as you wish, i just think its funny how many people are jumping on a wagon for something that has minimal testing.
Cheers to you all.
Even tuning isnt going to make the intake any better than the stock one really.. the stock one pulls in fresh cool air from the front of the car. The AEM almost looks like a ram air.. but you cant ram air into a turbo'd car, its similar to the alta one, just has a box around it. Its almost identical to the stock one with aems little perks.
I mean do as you wish, i just think its funny how many people are jumping on a wagon for something that has minimal testing.
Cheers to you all.
It's ok. I've dynoed before i had this intake and have seen gains from 145ish whp to 173whp with my mods. Now, two different dynos, but i'm not sure how much difference there is from one dynopak to another dynopak.
I dealt first hand with AEM engineers when they were prototyping this intake on my car. The engineering that went behind this was top notch. I'm not sure how many other of the intake manufacturers for our cars have the technology for testing like AEM.
Also, you do know that OEM manufactures give them cars to make factory parts (i.e. exhausts, intakes, etc) and brand them as their own?
I dealt first hand with AEM engineers when they were prototyping this intake on my car. The engineering that went behind this was top notch. I'm not sure how many other of the intake manufacturers for our cars have the technology for testing like AEM.
Also, you do know that OEM manufactures give them cars to make factory parts (i.e. exhausts, intakes, etc) and brand them as their own?
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From: Southern California
Do you have any data on this? Comparing the DoS, DDM, and AEM intakes to stock? Seriously? All seem like decent choices.
Even tuning isnt going to make the intake any better than the stock one really.. the stock one pulls in fresh cool air from the front of the car. The AEM almost looks like a ram air.. but you cant ram air into a turbo'd car, its similar to the alta one, just has a box around it. Its almost identical to the stock one with aems little perks.
So you see it's not just the "stock air box with a fancy filter" like you stated before incorrectly. According to laforze, their airbox uses the scoop AND the stock lower intake tube. You can see it on their site. (That's OK Boosted, we all make mistakes.) As for the scoops on either AEM or DDM, I would think either would have less restriction than the stock intake tube.
I mean do as you wish, i just think its funny how many people are jumping on a wagon for something that has minimal testing.
Minimal testing? Did you even read that report they did? Again, it's clear you didn't actually read the link I posted. Here's a challenge for you: READ the report in the link first, then come back and PLEASE, oh please tell me what you think of all of that testing they did, for real. Based on your professed "expertise" on minis and intakes, is all of that decent testing?
And on their website it says they use clean filters to do their testing. I'll bet DDM and DoS probably did the same.
Cheers to you all.
Cheers? Really? After calling everyone on this thread "dumb"? That's your "save"?
Last edited by Classic_Engr; Jul 6, 2012 at 12:58 PM.
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It's ok. I've dynoed before i had this intake and have seen gains from 145ish whp to 173whp with my mods. Now, two different dynos, but i'm not sure how much difference there is from one dynopak to another dynopak.
I dealt first hand with AEM engineers when they were prototyping this intake on my car. The engineering that went behind this was top notch. I'm not sure how many other of the intake manufacturers for our cars have the technology for testing like AEM.
Also, you do know that OEM manufactures give them cars to make factory parts (i.e. exhausts, intakes, etc) and brand them as their own?
I dealt first hand with AEM engineers when they were prototyping this intake on my car. The engineering that went behind this was top notch. I'm not sure how many other of the intake manufacturers for our cars have the technology for testing like AEM.
Also, you do know that OEM manufactures give them cars to make factory parts (i.e. exhausts, intakes, etc) and brand them as their own?
Cool. Good to hear. Your firsthand account has far more weight than this boosted_ego dude. I didn't know they made stuff for OEMs. But I'm still on the fence with which intake to actually buy cuz of the whole strut bar thing and probably cuz it's my wife's car and not my daily driver. I just use it on the weekend once in a while.
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From: Vancouver, WA
Update me as soon as you know anything I do want it!!!
To be honest I did buy my AEM for the sounds from the turbo. It was only 300. I didn't want an open filter under the hood and the Aem oil less style filter appealed to me. I had a VIP heat shield but swapped the AEM one on, it works I can touch it after driving around.
To be honest I did buy my AEM for the sounds from the turbo. It was only 300. I didn't want an open filter under the hood and the Aem oil less style filter appealed to me. I had a VIP heat shield but swapped the AEM one on, it works I can touch it after driving around.
I am pretty sure it is, hence the reason it has been on backorder for almost two months. Bad news though, the heatshield had a small scratch on it. I emailed AEM and within a few hours, they contacted me back for my information so they can send a replacement. Good peeps and great customer service. Love it.
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So I am trying install this new AEM intake on my '09 JCW. The instructions say to remove the boost bypass valve and the diagram shows the Cooper S intake tube. The JCW has a pretty strong tie strap holding the bypass valve into the intake tube. I had to cut it to remove the bypass valve. The valve looks larger than the new AEM intake elbow opening. Is it possible the JCW has a larger bypass valve than the Cooper S?
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Okay, the install is complete. Here is what happened that led me to my panic. The JCW bypass valve has a large rubber grommet around it to fit in the intake tube. The AEM instructions did not mention this. In order to remove the valve, you have to cut the tie strap holding it to the tube. Once you remove it, you then need to slide the grommet, shown in the attached photo, of the valve. It then fits beautifully. The only other hiccup was the removal of the hood scoop, the instructions made no mention of the small pushpin/screw holding the center of the scoop. Thankfully, nothing broke or bent during the removal. I will either be painting the inside of the hood scoop to hide the ugliness that Mini forgot to paint OR get the new mesh grill from Mini-Fini.
Other than that, amazing fit/finish. Install was a snap and the new sounds coming from the hood blend sweetly with those now coming from my exhaust tips. Love it.
Other than that, amazing fit/finish. Install was a snap and the new sounds coming from the hood blend sweetly with those now coming from my exhaust tips. Love it.
Okay, the install is complete. Here is what happened that led me to my panic. The JCW bypass valve has a large rubber grommet around it to fit in the intake tube. The AEM instructions did not mention this. In order to remove the valve, you have to cut the tie strap holding it to the tube. Once you remove it, you then need to slide the grommet, shown in the attached photo, of the valve. It then fits beautifully. The only other hiccup was the removal of the hood scoop, the instructions made no mention of the small pushpin/screw holding the center of the scoop. Thankfully, nothing broke or bent during the removal. I will either be painting the inside of the hood scoop to hide the ugliness that Mini forgot to paint OR get the new mesh grill from Mini-Fini.
Other than that, amazing fit/finish. Install was a snap and the new sounds coming from the hood blend sweetly with those now coming from my exhaust tips. Love it.
Other than that, amazing fit/finish. Install was a snap and the new sounds coming from the hood blend sweetly with those now coming from my exhaust tips. Love it.
