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Old Mar 26, 2021 | 10:48 PM
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Refinishing BBS wheels?

I have a set of the two piece BBS 17” wheels and the inners are very nice but the wheel itself the clear coat is coming off. I bought the spline tool to remove the bolts so when I remove the bolts does the center wheel just come off?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2021 | 12:03 AM
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I think the centers just come off from the barrel, although they might stick due to corrosion. However, the bolts are supposed to be one-time use and BBS doesn’t sell replacements. The biggest issue is they are prone to breaking when removing which is a problem when replacements are impossible to get. There are a lot of threads were people re-used the bolts or found other bolts that fit, but I’m not sure how safe that is.

The most innovative refinishing job I’ve seen was in this post where the lips were CNC’d without removing the centers: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4570830
 
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Old Mar 27, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RB-MINI
I think the centers just come off from the barrel, although they might stick due to corrosion. However, the bolts are supposed to be one-time use and BBS doesn’t sell replacements. The biggest issue is they are prone to breaking when removing which is a problem when replacements are impossible to get. There are a lot of threads were people re-used the bolts or found other bolts that fit, but I’m not sure how safe that is.

The most innovative refinishing job I’ve seen was in this post where the lips were CNC’d without removing the centers: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4570830
oh crap I didn’t know the bolts were a one time use. I guess I could refinish without removing the center but the inside of the barrel is bad with clear coat coming off. How could I remove the clear off the front without disturbing the center?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2021 | 06:38 PM
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There are a number of companies that will refinish your wheels. I have the same wheels on my MC40 and had the rims machined and the centers painted -- $135 ea. -- and they turned out great.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2021 | 09:10 PM
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Got a contact for us?? on the refinisher?


 
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Old Mar 27, 2021 | 09:32 PM
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I've taken about 3 sets of these apart....

The machine screws are Titanium with mid strength LocTite type product holding them.

Better galvanic corrosion resistance than say plated steel or even A4/316 stainless... and lighter to reduce rotating mass.. though these wheels are pretty heavy to start with

I can see why they say only one time use... but many have done this and reused them.

I had best luck by soaking the rim split and the fasteners with penetrating oil.... and using a hand 'hammer-strike" type of impact driver to 'shock' them loose... then I used a normal socket wrench and followed up with a small, low-torque cordless impact gun to get them out...Tedious YES... but ZERO broken fasteners and no stripped holes.... I soaked the screws in a cup of acetone for a couple of days... and the thread compound fell off... and gave me a chance to inspect them well... cleaned them up with a nylon bristle wheel in my bench grinder... I don't suggest aggressive cleaning nor using a die on the threads to 'chase the threads' ... I did however chase the threads in the aluminum.

After that... I used a good magnifier hood to visually inspect the screws... and saw no 'trouble spots'... though often fastener issue can't bee seen by 'eyeballing'

As an alternative.. you could go with a good stainless fastener with a small head like the ARP's which are a super high spec screw... but would also be expensive and weigh a bit more.

The wheels came apart easily... I marked them all so that the same faces went back on the same barrels.
Used a good urethane paint in Aston Martin "Arizona Bronze" color and a really high end clear coat that my buddy sprayed in his booth.

I did the polish lips as that was something that I could DIY... but the next set... I'm looking for a good shop that machine them... they look the best that way.

I'm not a fan of powdercoating high tech alloys like wheels... as I've seen many instances where the heat treat is changed from temps over 380˚ used in some ovens (AKA, 'over-aging") but many a wheel has been powder coated. Just make sure that the powder coater uses a low temp powder... Isn't doing many cycles or soak times... DEFINATELY NOT 'burning' them clean at high temps to prep them.... AND... Not coating your wheels with a bunch of steel fence posts for the local fabricator in the same batch... and you probably will be OK.



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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 01:01 PM
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ARS Wheel Repair, Carrolton, TX
https://arswheelrepair.com/?gclid=Cj...EaAsFDEALw_wcB
 
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 08:04 PM
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Source for TI wheel screws for the BBS/MINI wheels.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113279422177



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