I have no other programs running - did ctrl alt del to check and msconfig to uncheck unnecessary programs in start up folder.

I have followed the protocol and green light shines brightly Still get the
"no echo - adaptor missing?" message.

The system recognizes the usb-serial cable and it is on com2. Baud 115k Changing baud rate does not have any effect.

Wasted a day here. I'm desperate.

 

buad rate should be the default 9600. Did you try all your USB ports?

 

laptop has but 1 usb port.
I did try 9600 and it did not help.
gentleman from Minimods.com from TX called and said he unplugged and replugged in ECU, set buffers on the com port to 1 (supposed to help with troublesome connections). I could not change the "priority" of Cartune using the ctrl alt del. sequence, or at least could not figure that out.

just before pressing ID on Cartune, with car turned on, the light on the connector was green. As soon as I press ID, it goes red and the missing echo message pops up.

I'll try 9600 baud again in a.m. Hoping someone nearby can help with his connector and computer.
I'm bummed

MTH is not worth it.

 

Steve,

I am in Carlsbad... not real close... but I've got the stuff. Question: was this your first time trying to upload the MTH? Just curious... I can understand how frustrating it might be.

I've heard of others having trouble with Toshiba lap-tops not working properly with the USB cable. Is your cable the USB from Sensolutions? If that's your cable... do you have a friend with a laptop (or PC) that you could try? Transfer the program and MTH file to another computer and try again.

Here's another idea... try a soft re-set of your Mini's ECU. I believe it's nothing more than disconnecting the car battery, holding the two cables together (not touching the battery)... like to 10 seconds or so... then reconncet the car battery and then try and restart your car. Just MAYBE the upload didn't start - and MAYBE the ECU is just confused... the orginal programming may (might - hopefully) come back to life.

I hope some of this helps. Hang in there. I can only image how you must feel. At the very worst, have it taken to the dealer... but just say it wouldn't start... don't tell them what you were doing.

Oh, one more thought... I assume you installed the USB drivers? From Sensolutions for the USB cable?

Good luck!

P.S. - Many others before you have had success... you would be the first who's car wouldn't flash - etc.... I hope that's not the case... I hold out positive thoughts for you - that YOU will get this resolved (without the dealer).

 

My suggestion is to find someone locally with another laptop, that is most likely the source of your problems. Not all laptops have the necessary configuration for such cables and procedures.

 

I have had this happen to me once at the track, flash stops in the middle and car won't start, turned out to be the laptop low on battery and started to go into save mode. Recharged laptop and flash went OK. From what you are reporting there could be one of two things, you have selected the incorrect EMS, make sure the software is looking for R50 EMS, the other could be that the car ignition is not in the run position.

I know its traumatic at this time, but try it once more and make sure to follow the steps correctly.

 

have you tried using these drivers

http://www.obd3.de/pages/8_1_1_usb_treiber_main.html

also here is some help

http://www.littlemini.us/technical/mth/index.asp

 

I really appreciate the help. Still dead.

Previously, when it worked, I had to remove some programs to free up disk space. Did that again and scan disked, defragged, ran win doctor in Norton utilities.
Laptop fully charged.
Didn't change drivers - which were the ones Sensolutions sent me.
Sony laptop.
One usb port, set to 2.

I think it is laptop issue because it has been relatively inconsistent trying to ID car before. Last time I did not specify the ECU and it properly ID'd it.

I did disconnect the ECU at connectors and tried again - It did not work still.
Light is green at port until I try to ID the car - then it goes instantly to red.

I dread having to take it into dealer tomorrow. Big mistake fussing with it this weekend.

I guess some would say you get what you pay for. Lots of hours spent and a dead mini for it.

 

Oh, I feel so bad for you! But I think your right about the laptop.

My laptop, (a Dell) has 3 USB ports and I had the same trouble with finding the right port. When I would push ID, it would start to retrive it... then I would get that same error message you were getting. Out of the 3 USB ports on mine, I could only find one that would work. It didn't seem to matter which ports I would select from the software... ONLY ONE out of the 3 would work for me. So what I'm saying is it didn't matter what the software setting was... the software port setting seemed to have NO effect on it seeing the port it was pulled into.

Do you have a PC in house? You could bring that out to the garage. I know it's a hassel... but if it has more than one USB port... it's gotta work (hopefully).

 

One last shot...

1. Turn off any wireless/bluetooth services by using their "managers" (this is important!);
2. Keep your laptop plugged into the AC adapter;
3. Start the CarTune program;
4. Bring up Task Manager (ctrl+alt+del);
5. Click the "Processes" tab;
6. Find the CarTune.exe entry in the processes list;
7. Right-click on the CarTune.exe entry;
8. Choose "Set Priority" from the pop-up menu;
9. Choose "High" from the priority pop-up list;
10. Close Task Manager;
11. Start CarTune;
12. Try the upload again.

Hope this works,

Theo

 

Thanks
I have Win ME and I don't see that there are options with that s/w to prioritize processes.
I have nothing but task manager and explorer running. I think it is port talk problem. I've probably tried it 25 times with all combinations/permutations.
Can't transfer the Cartune as the screen for identifying the site code does not appear and that is needed, plus quick pasting of activation code.

Thanks again. Sure

 

Koopah, Thanks for posting that info on setting the priority mode. I didn't know that - it will come in handy. Thanks.

 

It's working!! Maddog2020 from SCMM came from Santa Monica to Santa Ana last night at 10:00 with his computer. Uploaded new MTH no problem. Must be my computer'/WinME is all I can say. I was thinking ECU was fried.

What a guy.

M7 referred him to me.

 

WinME was your problem. Its a rehashed version of Win9x and they had reliability issues with USB, I think there is a hotfix for it, but it would be simpler and better to just move up to XP!

 

Congrats and a big thank you to Maddog2020 for going the extra mile to help a fellow MINIac, this is what this community should be all about helping each other when ever we can. Maddog2020 you are a leader by example and M7 as a vendor you have shown once again that you have a vested interest in seeing this community prosper a big thank you also for helping to get these two folks connected.

 

Am I nuts or all the posts I have seen in the past GONE

 

Threads merged

I merged your post into this thread. This is the MTH member to member support thread. Please keep MTH product/debugging issues contained to this thread.

 

Thanks for the help. I looked but couldn't find this thread

 

Well I just sent my files to Franz for my MCSa so I'll see what he comes up with. The car currently has no engine mods but will have a M7 AGS on it when it arrives this week.

I did MTH on my MC a few times and was pleased with the results.

 

I currently have the Alta 15% pulley and I'm thinking about getting the Alta +2% Crank Pulley which will give an effective 17% SC Pulley.
I do have the MTH based on the 15% and my current mods (see singature).
My questions is, should I contact Franz to get a new version of MTH based on a 17% Pulley or, just keep the MTH I'm currently using?
I understand that I do not HAVE to get the up-graded MTH but, will I be sacraficing substancial whp?

 

I have added a mod (thottle body) since my MTH flash. Should I get an new file from Franz? If so, do I send him the currently modified MTH file I'm running with a list of the mods?

Thanks.

 

minimonkey & apexer what I have done in the past is download what is in the car. Then tell Franz what has changed in the car or what I want changed. I always download whats in the car rather then sending him back the file he sent in the hope that the ecu can tell him more about how the car is behaving.

 

That makes sense. Thank you!

 

It doesn't matter what you send him back - he just uses that file to verify your car data, not base the changes.

 

There is some truth to what you and I said. But the best way to know is to ask the man himself. Since he does not check these forums you have to email him and ask or check the one forum he does frequent (I forget which one right now).