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Old May 1, 2013 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
Hi conger,

Do you know if there are any other checks for license plate lights other than below?
KALTUE_KZL_M2_49
WARMUE_KZL_M2_49
nicht_aktiv

I coded out the above and there is no more permanent warning with the exclamation mark, but there is always the yellow bulb out warning when turning on the ignition and then it disappears until the next ignition start.

Thanks
On my R56 2008 wichhas been updated along the way, and I suspect in 2011 or 2012 but can't be sure yet, I had to set:
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL
WARMUEBERWACHUNG_KZL

I don't know what the license plate warning looks like. However, the sidelights/city lights warning is a small bulb icon with in a circle of what looks like rays of light.

I think the license plate checks you coded out are the right ones and the bulb error you are getting corresponds to the front lights or other. It's more likely you have missed a front bulb check. If I were you I would replace back all original bulbs except for one led bulb in the side light and see what happens.

PS Just tried some of these bulbs in the sidelights to replace my CREE 2W bulbs. They are brighter, a better match to the Xenon lights and fill the reflector perfectly. Also they are a tight fit in the crappy bulb holders, light and don't protrude far into the light. Will have to see how they last over time but so far, these are the best LEDs I have tried in 3 years of searching and trying many.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T10-501-W5...item4851fa5b6e
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
Any idea what PARKL_FKT_MIT_POL is?
I believe it addresses the behaviour of what are called the parking lights.

In the UK (and EU I believe) all cars can be left on the side of the road at night, with one side of 2sidelights" on. Usually this is one front sidelight and one back light. So if you park on the left side of a road, you would put the indicator in the position to turn right just before you leave the car.
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
I coded out the above and there is no more permanent warning with the exclamation mark, but there is always the yellow bulb out warning when turning on the ignition and then it disappears until the next ignition start.
This means that it is a Cold or Kalt check that if finding an error. Also it means that if you turn the car on in the dark, with no lights on that you will see any LED lights flashing over a period of about 10 seconds. Any lights that flash will indicate what light to check in the coding.

The flashing is the cold testing as the car pulses every bulb with a short pulse. Normal incandescent bulbs don't light up during that short time so you don't see it happening. Leds do light up like a strobe at full brightness.

If you haven't see it happen in total darkness with CREE bulbs you are in for a surprise every time the car is started! Great way to attract the rozzers.
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:52 AM
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Thanks for the advice. The first thing I tried was replacing back the original bulbs of the license plates lights, and strangely enough, no more bulb out warning, not even during startup. So it's safe to say that the code out for the parking lights was correct (as mentioned in my previous posts, I coded out both parking lights and corner lights, but don't think I have corner lights) I am using a different type of LED bulbs for the parking lights compared to license plate LED bulbs. So I suspect its the type of LED bulbs that caused bulb out warning.

This is what I have in the parking lights - 5W high power cree type LEDs.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370722628...84.m1497.l2649

This is the license plate LED bulbs which triggered bulb out warning even after code out.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270818721...84.m1497.l2649

The 5W LED bulb does not fit in the license plate lights housing as they are too long so I will have to look for another type. Perhaps, those "error free" ones in your link would work?


Originally Posted by conger
On my R56 2008 wichhas been updated along the way, and I suspect in 2011 or 2012 but can't be sure yet, I had to set:
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL
WARMUEBERWACHUNG_KZL

I don't know what the license plate warning looks like. However, the sidelights/city lights warning is a small bulb icon with in a circle of what looks like rays of light.

I think the license plate checks you coded out are the right ones and the bulb error you are getting corresponds to the front lights or other. It's more likely you have missed a front bulb check. If I were you I would replace back all original bulbs except for one led bulb in the side light and see what happens.

PS Just tried some of these bulbs in the sidelights to replace my CREE 2W bulbs. They are brighter, a better match to the Xenon lights and fill the reflector perfectly. Also they are a tight fit in the crappy bulb holders, light and don't protrude far into the light. Will have to see how they last over time but so far, these are the best LEDs I have tried in 3 years of searching and trying many.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T10-501-W5...item4851fa5b6e
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by conger
I believe it addresses the behaviour of what are called the parking lights.

In the UK (and EU I believe) all cars can be left on the side of the road at night, with one side of 2sidelights" on. Usually this is one front sidelight and one back light. So if you park on the left side of a road, you would put the indicator in the position to turn right just before you leave the car.
I see, thanks for the explanation. Thought it might be related to bulb check.
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
{snip}...I am sort of at a loss regarding what to do next. Are there any values to code that we haven't done?...{snip}
Hujan -

I have a 2012 CMS (built 11/11) running the V46 datens. I ran into a similar problem and resolved it. I just looked in my NCS settings "change log" and noted something that is not on the settings you posted.

Try coding the following:

KALTUE_POL_M2_50_M1_8 nicht_aktiv
WARMUE_POL_M2_50_M1_8 nicht_aktiv

The "POL" lights seem to be documented as corner lights and, as d0lphinGrey has mentioned, my coding-out of the "city lights" still generated a check until I changed these settings. Verify the setting values in your FRM module to see if they are aktiv. If so, make the two changes above and let us know.

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Old May 1, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. I really appreciate it. It's threads like these that really show the best side of this community.

We'll have a look and see if those values are active or not.

One thing I forgot to mention in my original post: If I turn my headlights on, the bulb warning disappears after a few seconds, never to return until I shut off and restart the car. Not sure if that changes any of your opinions. I suspect what's happening is that the resistor in the bulbs is not doing its thing until the bulbs are turned on, so with the lights off the car just thinks the bulb is out. (Though its odd it only seems to focus on the left side.)
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
This is what I have in the parking lights - 5W high power cree type LEDs.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370722628...84.m1497.l2649
I have used those but found they are quite focused through the lens. I did even hacksaw off the lens on one as an experiment. However, the idiot who hacksawed off the front of the bulb also hacksawed off the CREE LED! I think those would be just about perfect if there was no lens and the LED had a 180 degree spread. Mitec make a similar thing but they are too wide to fit in the sidelights - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTEC-EXTRE...item5651305ed2 They are also too long and heavy for the bulb holders I think.


Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
This is the license plate LED bulbs which triggered bulb out warning even after code out.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270818721...84.m1497.l2649
That is a serious amount of lumens for the license plate! In my experience the license plate along with puddle lights and R55 boot light, need a single sided bright LED. I have some of these which seem to fit the bill - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Xenon-...item4d0977ec62

They throw an even light straight out from the lamp holder and don't need a reflector, i.e. down when mounted in the license plate and puddle lights.
 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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My understanding is that the cold bulb checking is more concerned with looking for a bulb that is changing it's current and voltage characteristics and is therefore likely to fail in the future. So the cold checks are looking for failing bulbs rather than failed bulbs.

The warm checks are looking for failed bulbs when the bulb is switched on.

Either way, if the relevant warm and cold checks are coded out, then an LED or a failing normal bulb or even no bulb should not trigger a bulb fault. A direct short will trigger a fault but a different fault that needs addressing.
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by conger
My understanding is that the cold bulb checking is more concerned with looking for a bulb that is changing it's current and voltage characteristics and is therefore likely to fail in the future. So the cold checks are looking for failing bulbs rather than failed bulbs.

The warm checks are looking for failed bulbs when the bulb is switched on.

Either way, if the relevant warm and cold checks are coded out, then an LED or a failing normal bulb or even no bulb should not trigger a bulb fault. A direct short will trigger a fault but a different fault that needs addressing.
This is interesting, the LEDs I initially used in the license plate lights triggered "cold bulb check" but not "warm bulb check". Note this particular type of led bulb has polarity. I then tried a different set of led bulbs that have no polarity, interestingly enough, they passed "cold bulb check", no bulb out warning at all. Although I can't be certainly if polarity has anything to do with it.
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
This is interesting, the LEDs I initially used in the license plate lights triggered "cold bulb check" but not "warm bulb check". Note this particular type of led bulb has polarity. I then tried a different set of led bulbs that have no polarity, interestingly enough, they passed "cold bulb check", no bulb out warning at all. Although I can't be certainly if polarity has anything to do with it.
All LEDs have a polarity but some have additional diodes added so that you can put them in either way. The extra diodes would produce a bit more voltage drop which should make the LEDs behave more like normal incandescent 5W bulbs that draw lots of current (and heat up enough to burn your skin).
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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lol must be the lens effect that tricked ones eyes. Yes they are quite focused but they are also quite "in your eyes" for other road users so I see it as an added safety feature.

Thanks for the link, I will definitely look into those flank style bulbs.
Originally Posted by conger
I have used those but found they are quite focused through the lens. I did even hacksaw off the lens on one as an experiment. However, the idiot who hacksawed off the front of the bulb also hacksawed off the CREE LED! I think those would be just about perfect if there was no lens and the LED had a 180 degree spread. Mitec make a similar thing but they are too wide to fit in the sidelights - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTEC-EXTRE...item5651305ed2 They are also too long and heavy for the bulb holders I think.



That is a serious amount of lumens for the license plate! In my experience the license plate along with puddle lights and R55 boot light, need a single sided bright LED. I have some of these which seem to fit the bill - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Xenon-...item4d0977ec62

They throw an even light straight out from the lamp holder and don't need a reflector, i.e. down when mounted in the license plate and puddle lights.
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by conger
All LEDs have a polarity but some have additional diodes added so that you can put them in either way. The extra diodes would produce a bit more voltage drop which should make the LEDs behave more like normal incandescent 5W bulbs that draw lots of current (and heat up enough to burn your skin).
Aha, so that explains it then. Good to know!
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Anyone know if there is a code to enable "press unlock (on key fob) once to unlock all doors"? Don't if it's the same overseas but the Aussie version doesn't come with this feature. Can't seem to find the answer in this thread either.
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 12:13 PM
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Are the parking lights the SAME as City Lights?

IE, the ones above fogs
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
Anyone know if there is a code to enable "press unlock (on key fob) once to unlock all doors"? Don't if it's the same overseas but the Aussie version doesn't come with this feature. Can't seem to find the answer in this thread either.
There's no coding required, you can change the setting on the computer.

If you have connected, it's in the settings.

No connected, you have to go through the menu from the left stalk on the steering wheel.
 
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Old May 3, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nutsofamily
Are the parking lights the SAME as City Lights?

IE, the ones above fogs
Yes. In some countries (Greece, IIRC) it is illegal to drive in the (presumably well-lighted) city with your headlamps on. So the "parking lights" are referred to as "city lights". They are in the upper half of the round fog light housing.
 
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Old May 3, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by manho1dup
There's no coding required, you can change the setting on the computer.

If you have connected, it's in the settings.

No connected, you have to go through the menu from the left stalk on the steering wheel.
Thanks for the reply. I have no connected. Will have a look in the menu then..

Cheers
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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r60 mini mirror folding NO YET?
ex)[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]SPIEGEL_KOMFORT_EINKLAPP[/SIZE][/FONT]aktiv

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]ASP_KOMFORT_EINKLAPP (or SPIEGEL_KOMFORT_EINKLAPP)[/SIZE][/FONT]
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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ASP_KOMFORT_EINKLAPP (or SPIEGEL_KOMFORT_EINKLAPP)[/SIZE][/FONT]

r60 mini countryman not yer?
Folds side mirrors with FOB and CA. Requires that closing windows/moonroof with fob also be enabled (KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB)

not mirror folding T.T
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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I answered you directly on 4/17:
If you're asking about the ability to fold/unfold the mirrors with the fob, then no - that's not possible.

Another member and I were working on auto-fold on key out, but it was just over-complicated.
There is no way (in the software) to fold in the mirrors with the fob, regardless of any code setting.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Is there a way to disable the low beams when DRL mode is on? Currently both parking lights and low beams are on during DRL mode. I'd like to just run the LED parking lights if possible.

Sorry if this has been discussed before. Don't think I've seen this topic in the first 10 pages of this thread.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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DRL side lights only

Originally Posted by d0lphinGrey
Is there a way to disable the low beams when DRL mode is on? Currently both parking lights and low beams are on during DRL mode. I'd like to just run the LED parking lights if possible.
Yes that's possible. I found the following here or on the R56 pages:

4- Search for "VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL". This option selects what the behavior is for the DRL operation.
- Change the value for "VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL" from "drl_l" to "drl_s". drl_l is the option for DRL_LOWBEAMS, and drl_s is the option for DRL_SELECTIVE
5- Search for "DRL_TFL_SML". This option is to toggle the Upper Fog Lights for DRL function.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_SML" from "nicht_active" to "active"
6- Search for "DRL_TFL_KZL". This option is to toggle the Licence Plate Lights for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_KZL" from "active" to "nicht_active"
7- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_2". This option is to toggle the Side Marker Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_2" from "active" to "nicht_active"
8- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_1". This option is to toggle the Lower Brake Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_1" from "active" to "nicht_active"
9- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL". This option is to toggle the Brake Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL" from "active" to "nicht_active"


I did this and I have the side lights only with no other lights on all the time.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Thank you Sir! This was going to be my next question, how do I disable everything else and run only the parkers, as DRL meant to be.


- Where exactly do I find "drl_l" in "VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL", do you mean changing the value to "VERHALTEN_DRL_S_TFL"?

- Do side marker lights actually work in DRL mode? Did not know that.

- Were you able disabled the interior instrument lights as well?

Thanks
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Yes that's possible. I found the following here or on the R56 pages:

4- Search for "VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL". This option selects what the behavior is for the DRL operation.
- Change the value for "VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL" from "drl_l" to "drl_s". drl_l is the option for DRL_LOWBEAMS, and drl_s is the option for DRL_SELECTIVE
5- Search for "DRL_TFL_SML". This option is to toggle the Upper Fog Lights for DRL function.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_SML" from "nicht_active" to "active"
6- Search for "DRL_TFL_KZL". This option is to toggle the Licence Plate Lights for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_KZL" from "active" to "nicht_active"
7- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_2". This option is to toggle the Side Marker Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_2" from "active" to "nicht_active"
8- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_1". This option is to toggle the Lower Brake Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL_1" from "active" to "nicht_active"
9- Search for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL". This option is to toggle the Brake Lights at Running Light Level, for DRL function. I do not want them on with DRL's, so this step is to disable them.
- Change the value for "DRL_TFL_RL_BL" from "active" to "nicht_active"


I did this and I have the side lights only with no other lights on all the time.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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conger is a bit off the mark here, as he's talking about R56 coding. While usually they are inter-operable, in this case, they are a bit dissimilar.

Starting with Post #245 in this thread, you will see that this has been discussed before. The R60 codes have been slightly renamed. I believe if you start reading from that post forward, though, you will achieve what you're looking for.
 
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