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Drivetrain 231.9WHP with new big valve head. Stock cam and ECU.

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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
The question is how fast do u want to go

hopefully faster than 13.2 @ 105.5mph on street tires
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
No it wasn't me LOL...I'm not that crazy...

I have an old 03 SC that has shed all of it's coating...not to worry, it will soon be replaced with the Killer Cantalope!!!

Wait - hold here - STOP.

we can't have Hay-zeus head coupled with Killer cantalope !!!

You'll get deleted


Mixing apples and oranges. Either we stick w/ reglious associations or go to the produce section.

I was thing that Jan's kit (head, header and supercharger) could be called the "3 wise men" or the "trinity package".

BUT i am open to the produce section - Killer cantalope, 4 into 1 bananas and big valve Broccoli ?

please think of what your sig will look like before you start things up
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Just say a little prayer before eatn your produce...
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Wait - hold here - STOP.

we can't have Hay-zeus head coupled with Killer cantalope !!!

You'll get deleted


Mixing apples and oranges. Either we stick w/ reglious associations or go to the produce section.

I was thing that Jan's kit (head, header and supercharger) could be called the "3 wise men" or the "trinity package".

BUT i am open to the produce section - Killer cantalope, 4 into 1 bananas and big valve Broccoli ?

please think of what your sig will look like before you start things up
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Wait - hold here - STOP.

we can't have Hay-zeus head coupled with Killer cantalope !!!

You'll get deleted


Mixing apples and oranges. Either we stick w/ reglious associations or go to the produce section.

I was thing that Jan's kit (head, header and supercharger) could be called the "3 wise men" or the "trinity package".

BUT i am open to the produce section - Killer cantalope, 4 into 1 bananas and big valve Broccoli ?

please think of what your sig will look like before you start things up
You forgot the variable cam gear and possibly the cam.

So...either go with the produce or switch to someting with a larger pantheon of power figures.
I for one am OK with Norse references.
ODIN(Woden) head
Thor header
Vanir blower (God of wind...get it )
Freya cam (lobes...breasteses....)
Loki ECU tuning (it's some tricky *****)

 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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You guys are funny.



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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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For the whole SC/head/header enchalada, it can be referrered to as "The Last Supper"...
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Can we get a snyopsis of the entire thread please.
Hey Check this out, isn't it cool?
Cool tell us who made it
I can't tell you
Why not
You don't want to know

You don't know what you are talking about
Yes I do
No you don't
Yes I do
No you don't

You guys are poopee heads
No we aren't
Yes you are
No you aren't

If it's so cool show us data
We showed all the data we have
Show us data
we showed you all the data we have
Show us data
We showed you all the data we have

What trap speed does it run on a drag strip
I haven't run it on a drag strip
Trap speed doesn't matter, Dyno numbers are the only way
Dyno numbers don't matter, trap speed is the only way
No it isn't
Yes it is
No it isn't
Yes it is

I'm not posting anymore
Yes you are
No I am not
Yes you are

Oh come back, those guys are just poopee heads
That's what I said 37 pages ago
No you didn't
Yes I did
No you didn't
Yes I did

Show us data
We showed all the data we have

:impatient

Did I miss anything?

Steve
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
For the whole SC/head/header enchalada, it can be referrered to as "The Last Supper"...
nice!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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yeah man actually you did . you didn't say how your first name is RICHARD!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Now that was funny!

After seeing the workmanship in one of these last week, I have to say that if it perfoms as well as it looks..... I May have to start saving my pennies as well. I've been tinkering with various toys for 30 yrs now, drag cars, late models, street, quads, etc and have to say that the quality is as good as I have seen. Nice job on the execution of the final product.

Now I'll just pick the brain of the guy who's car it went on for buttdyno results.

Tim
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
The question is how fast do u want to go
Its more of a question of how deep are my pockets paul LOL
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveT
Hey Check this out, isn't it cool?
Cool tell us who made it
I can't tell you
Why not
You don't want to know

You don't know what you are talking about
Yes I do
No you don't
Yes I do
No you don't

You guys are poopee heads
No we aren't
Yes you are
No you aren't

If it's so cool show us data
We showed all the data we have
Show us data
we showed you all the data we have
Show us data
We showed you all the data we have

What trap speed does it run on a drag strip
I haven't run it on a drag strip
Trap speed doesn't matter, Dyno numbers are the only way
Dyno numbers don't matter, trap speed is the only way
No it isn't
Yes it is
No it isn't
Yes it is

I'm not posting anymore
Yes you are
No I am not
Yes you are

Oh come back, those guys are just poopee heads
That's what I said 37 pages ago
No you didn't
Yes I did
No you didn't
Yes I did

Show us data
We showed all the data we have

:impatient

Did I miss anything?

Steve

Oh Thats Great!!!

Thanks
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJCW
Its more of a question of how deep are my pockets paul LOL
its always good to have a plan you jusy got to check your pockets to see if there's enough there for a cam or a head
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
its always good to have a plan you jusy got to check your pockets to see if there's enough there for a cam or a head
Don't you ideally want to match your cam and head for maximum gains?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by golfersmurf
Don't you ideally want to match your cam and head for maximum gains?
And ECU tune. While you are at it, you might as well put on a long tube header.... And, and, and.... Now, how deep did you say your wallet was?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by golfersmurf
Don't you ideally want to match your cam and head for maximum gains?
Without a shadow of a doubt golfersmurf and this is what we usually do and come up with some weird and wonderful combinations.

But if a head flows enough to satisy the stock ecu rev limit then there's no point in getting a cam.

We found our cam in theory with a stock head to produce 213.8 rwhp and run a 13.24 @ 102 and we overlayed BlackJCW power curve and our one pre intercooler and we were making quite a bit more.

We're slowly finding BlackJCW hidden power, he has one cheapish improvement left (cam), or maybe its worth living with what he's got for longer and putting that money towards having a head or maybe sod the head and get a turbo which is what he really wants
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by obehave
You forgot the variable cam gear and possibly the cam.

So...either go with the produce or switch to someting with a larger pantheon of power figures.
I for one am OK with Norse references.
ODIN(Woden) head
Thor header
Vanir blower (God of wind...get it )
Freya cam (lobes...breasteses....)
Loki ECU tuning (it's some tricky *****)

there's plenty of religion to go around
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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hey ive been following this thread with interest, but there is one prob, i want one of these "jesus" heads( or watever u call them), and i cant find one. when are they gonna be available and where can i get one?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blackman
hey ive been following this thread with interest, but there is one prob, i want one of these "jesus" heads( or watever u call them), and i cant find one. when are they gonna be available and where can i get one?
www.revolutionmini.com
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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ALLAH & JESUS together at last!

My Alta header/race cat finally gave out right about the same time my borla catback gave up the ghost so it was time for a "conversion".
Jan was nice enough to squeeze me into the rotation due to my emergency (and wide open checkbook).
The results are amazing! His headers are by far the best engineered and most beautiful I've ever seen. The custom fitted Magna-Flow catback is a perfect match in quality fit & finish. The final results are very impressive. Looks like it's back to the dyno for more testing/tuning
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blumini
My Alta header/race cat finally gave out right about the same time my borla catback gave up the ghost so it was time for a "conversion".
Jan was nice enough to squeeze me into the rotation due to my emergency (and wide open checkbook).
The results are amazing! His headers are by far the best engineered and most beautiful I've ever seen. The custom fitted Magna-Flow catback is a perfect match in quality fit & finish. The final results are very impressive. Looks like it's back to the dyno for more testing/tuning
how loud is it blumini?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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that's been bookmarked . now just gotta win the power ball .
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIotaple
how loud is it blumini?
The system sounds AWESOME! A very throaty & deep tuned pitch.
My biggest issue with my previous system (Alta header race cat/Borla Sport) was the dreaded "drone" between 3 & 4K rpm. Jan's system is much easier on the ears between 3 & 4K rpm. I have an early 04 MCS which uses a slightly different Magna-Flow configuration than The late 04-05-06 version. Back-to-back the early 04 version is noticably louder at WOT than the late version. They say it makes more power too...




 

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blumini
The system sounds AWESOME! A very throaty & deep tuned pitch.
My biggest issue with my previous system (Alta header race cat/Borla Sport) was the dreaded "drone" between 3 & 4K rpm. Jan's system is much easier on the ears between 3 & 4K rpm. I have an early 04 MCS which uses a slightly different Magna-Flow configuration than The late 04-05-06 version. Back-to-back the early 04 version is noticably louder at WOT than the late version.




Are the tips so big that they're touching the the bodywork?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIotaple
Are the tips so big that they're touching the the bodywork?
Close, but no touchy d'bodywork.
 
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