Drivetrain M62 SC on the MINI is reality
Originally Posted by SpiderX
The target price for the kit will be $3K and they have painstakingly developed it so all the pieces/mods you already own will still work (yes!) this makes getting your car to close to the performance of mine pretty easy..... damn
Look for an official post from the OEM pretty soon.....this is very exciting to me..... fingers crossed
Look for an official post from the OEM pretty soon.....this is very exciting to me..... fingers crossedI actually have a spread sheet on my PC with a mod plan in stages that would get me to that WHP ballpark but it was going to take 10 grand and three or four years of saving to do it.
blasts fro the past:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
a few of these old boys still around?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
a few of these old boys still around?
Originally Posted by jlm
blasts fro the past:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
a few of these old boys still around?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&highlight=m62
a few of these old boys still around?
Old is new again eh?
Originally Posted by theroyalwe
the car I think myzamboni was thinking of is the Cobalt SS. That uses an Eaton M62 and has a similar sized engine to the caliber. !
Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Originally Posted by RallyMINI2005
First, let me say the Chevy website is one of the worst I have ever used...
Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Originally Posted by RallyMINI2005
...Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Originally Posted by RallyMINI2005
First, let me say the Chevy website is one of the worst I have ever used...
Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Second, I am confused... the Cobalt SS is only making 200hp and 200lb*ft of torque with 2.0L of displacement and the larger M62 supercharger..!? Is Chevy just being a pansy or are we missing some limitation of this setup? Maybe they aren't cooling the air after it's compressed by the supercharger? Anyone know any other details about this engine?
Anyway, seems odd...
RM2k5
Originally Posted by TonyB
It's my understanding that the power output is grossly understated by Chevy.
"Our test vehicle, which resembled a sunburned lobster, ripped from 0 to 60 in just 5.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in only 14.4 at 100 mph." - C&D
You won't get than kind of performance with a mere 200hp... especially since the Cobalt SS under test weighed 2911lbs! Sounds like underrating to me... A JCW MCS requires almost 6.3sec to 60 and 15.1 sec to pass the 1.4 mile.
Hmmmmmm... maybe we can wait for a high school kid to send is Cobalt SS into the weeds and then go raid it for the supercharger!
RM2k5
Originally Posted by theroyalwe
the car I think myzamboni was thinking of is the Cobalt SS. That uses an Eaton M62 and has a similar sized engine to the caliber.
here's the crazy person in me thinking... if the M62 will work... what about the next size up? it's already been established that the engine can handle massive HP... and massive HP from a massive SC would be quite an adventure!
here's the crazy person in me thinking... if the M62 will work... what about the next size up? it's already been established that the engine can handle massive HP... and massive HP from a massive SC would be quite an adventure!
Just got off the phone with Dave...
He had a few odds and ends parts overnighted that he had to put on this morning, and he was cleaning up everything/putting it all back together for the last time WOOT! Should start dyno tuning the A/F ratio tomorrow, so we'll have numbers soon.
He also said the kit should be available for sell in about 8 weeks...way sooner than I expected. I'm giddy as a schoolgirl.
He also said the kit should be available for sell in about 8 weeks...way sooner than I expected. I'm giddy as a schoolgirl.
Ryan, that is great information. A brief description of the install, and time and expertise needed would be nice to know. Thanks much. Sounds like it could be a fun winter project. Where's Sid's thread!
Just got off the phone with Dave...
He was waiting on a few odds and ends parts to be overnighted that he put on this morning, and he was putting everything back together for the last time...WOOT!! Planning on going to dyno tomorrow for air/fuel tuning, so we should have some numbers to post soon.
Dave plans to have kits ready to sell in about 8 weeks...way sooner than I imagined. The install will be pretty much bolt-on by taking off the nose of the car. He's done it so many times now it only takes about a half hour.
I work all day tomorrow but should be able to drive down and pick it up Thursday if it's ready. Soo giddy like little school gurl
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Dave plans to have kits ready to sell in about 8 weeks...way sooner than I imagined. The install will be pretty much bolt-on by taking off the nose of the car. He's done it so many times now it only takes about a half hour.
I work all day tomorrow but should be able to drive down and pick it up Thursday if it's ready. Soo giddy like little school gurl

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Any thoughts on the stock alternator handling the load of the water pump.
Most draw 5-6 amps. There's a nice HP savings here but electric water pumps didn't used to be ideal for long term cruising. They'd get quite hot.
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
Most draw 5-6 amps. There's a nice HP savings here but electric water pumps didn't used to be ideal for long term cruising. They'd get quite hot.
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
Originally Posted by obehave
There's a nice HP savings here but electric water pumps didn't used to be ideal for long term cruising. They'd get quite hot.
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
Originally Posted by obehave
Any thoughts on the stock alternator handling the load of the water pump.
Most draw 5-6 amps. There's a nice HP savings here but electric water pumps didn't used to be ideal for long term cruising. They'd get quite hot.
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
Most draw 5-6 amps. There's a nice HP savings here but electric water pumps didn't used to be ideal for long term cruising. They'd get quite hot.
There might be much more intelligent control circuitry currently. Does anybody know if this is true or not?
Wes
The water pump is triggered by the thermostat or another similar type of switch. Dave also made some changes to how the coolant flows around/through the block which will cool it more effectively. This pump is capable of cooling 500hp v8 race engines so heat accumulation shouldn't be a problem here.
Gotcha. Hopefully there'll be enough power. It doesn't have fogs or a big stereo. I guess we could put a pulley on the alternator : )
Originally Posted by Wesport
Like Obehave - I was more worried about drawing to much power than cooling adequtly - it is not that hard to cool or bad little 1.6 liters.
Wes
Wes
Originally Posted by Major Mini
Gotcha. Hopefully there'll be enough power. It doesn't have fogs or a big stereo. I guess we could put a pulley on the alternator : )
Overdriving the alternator is not the right way to handle the load.
More info on this when you can would be appreciated.
Thanks





