Drivetrain Randy Webb's new exhaust
Originally Posted by obehave
I think the big question that was hanging unanswered was how and where to run the wiring for the switch.
That'll probably take longer than hanging the system itself.
I'm guessing 2 hours @ $75/hr
That'll probably take longer than hanging the system itself.
I'm guessing 2 hours @ $75/hr
Originally Posted by obehave
I'm always amused by the demands people here make on vendors.
"If it isn't ready when I want, I'm not buying it"
"It needs to be ready to suit my world"
"It better come in blue or I'll make my own."
"He better kiss my but or I'll spend my money elsewhere"
My 2 ¢
Shut up and gpo make your own ***** or wait for a decent product to come to market.
Go elsewhere to buy a product and then quit coming here to whine about it.
This instant gratification, video game mentality is childish and accommplishes nothing.
"If it isn't ready when I want, I'm not buying it"
"It needs to be ready to suit my world"
"It better come in blue or I'll make my own."
"He better kiss my but or I'll spend my money elsewhere"
My 2 ¢
Shut up and gpo make your own ***** or wait for a decent product to come to market.
Go elsewhere to buy a product and then quit coming here to whine about it.
This instant gratification, video game mentality is childish and accommplishes nothing.
I do not think he is making any childish demands, he is asking a simple question trying to be an informed MINI owner. You need to calm down a bit before posting responses and know the full story and not attack people like this. Those type of knee jerk responses are what drives people away from NAM.
Plus we are paying for a premium product, expecting extra R&D. But by the same token with a premium product should come premium service/support. With some of the problems is commmuncating with WMS in the past, due to high volume of calls/visits, the service hasn't been premium at times. I don't think anyone, including Randy and Brian would argue this. And to their credit they are trying to improve things.
In the end, we are all anxious for this system. We all need to be patient with WMS, as well as each other.
Originally Posted by jfunkmd
I'm gonna come in Matt's defense here. I too was scheduled to get the WMS exhaust at the Phoenix PP. And it is true that it was only 1-2 days notice that it was not gonna be ready. I too think that it would have been much better if Randy had given people a bit more notice about the lack of exhausts at the PP. Does this mean I won't get a WMS system? Just look at my sig for the answer.
I do not think he is making any childish demands, he is asking a simple question trying to be an informed MINI owner. You need to call down a bit before posting responses and know the full story and not attack people like this. Those type of knee jerk responses are what drives people away from NAM.
Plus we are paying for a premium product, expecting extra R&D. But by the same token with a premium product should come premium service/support. With some of the problems is commmuncating with WMS in the past, due to high volume of calls/visits, the service hasn't been premium at times. I don't think anyone, including Randy and Brian would argue this. And to their credit they are trying to improve things.
In the end, we are all anxious for this system. We all need to be patient with WMS, as well as each other.
I do not think he is making any childish demands, he is asking a simple question trying to be an informed MINI owner. You need to call down a bit before posting responses and know the full story and not attack people like this. Those type of knee jerk responses are what drives people away from NAM.
Plus we are paying for a premium product, expecting extra R&D. But by the same token with a premium product should come premium service/support. With some of the problems is commmuncating with WMS in the past, due to high volume of calls/visits, the service hasn't been premium at times. I don't think anyone, including Randy and Brian would argue this. And to their credit they are trying to improve things.
In the end, we are all anxious for this system. We all need to be patient with WMS, as well as each other.
Originally Posted by jfunkmd
I'm gonna come in Matt's defense here. I too was scheduled to get the WMS exhaust at the Phoenix PP. And it is true that it was only 1-2 days notice that it was not gonna be ready. I too think that it would have been much better if Randy had given people a bit more notice about the lack of exhausts at the PP. Does this mean I won't get a WMS system? Just look at my sig for the answer.
I do not think he is making any childish demands, he is asking a simple question trying to be an informed MINI owner. You need to calm down a bit before posting responses and know the full story and not attack people like this. Those type of knee jerk responses are what drives people away from NAM.
Plus we are paying for a premium product, expecting extra R&D. But by the same token with a premium product should come premium service/support. With some of the problems is commmuncating with WMS in the past, due to high volume of calls/visits, the service hasn't been premium at times. I don't think anyone, including Randy and Brian would argue this. And to their credit they are trying to improve things.
In the end, we are all anxious for this system. We all need to be patient with WMS, as well as each other.
I do not think he is making any childish demands, he is asking a simple question trying to be an informed MINI owner. You need to calm down a bit before posting responses and know the full story and not attack people like this. Those type of knee jerk responses are what drives people away from NAM.
Plus we are paying for a premium product, expecting extra R&D. But by the same token with a premium product should come premium service/support. With some of the problems is commmuncating with WMS in the past, due to high volume of calls/visits, the service hasn't been premium at times. I don't think anyone, including Randy and Brian would argue this. And to their credit they are trying to improve things.
In the end, we are all anxious for this system. We all need to be patient with WMS, as well as each other.
His post did trigger the thought though and he is definitely not the only one that's impatient. I have been as well.
Being upset or PO'd doesn't get the product to market any sooner and if it does you get crap like Windows Me
Is anybody not going to buy a PS3 because it got delayed again?
How long we been waiting for that Pilo header??
Matt was going to AMVIV anyway so why stress about the exhaust? It just detracts from the potential fun.
Anyway, it's all in a day and doesn't change the world so let's just have fun here.
Originally Posted by SpiderX
I'm still hoping to have it in by Dragon time.
But if it isn't ready I'm going to be ****** pi*** and it'll ruin my whole f***** trip
It's called humor folks
Originally Posted by obehave
I hope somebody does. I'd like to hear it.
But if it isn't ready I'm going to be ****** pi*** and it'll ruin my whole f***** trip
It's called humor folks
But if it isn't ready I'm going to be ****** pi*** and it'll ruin my whole f***** trip
It's called humor folks

if it's around $800, i think i can live with that for an exhaust system with such crazy power. i'm sure the installation is not that hard is it? just simple wiring from the exhaust to the interior..
Originally Posted by MattMan
It was announced back in Aug 05 that they were going to develop it and it's taken a while to get it right. I was told a couple weeks ago that the last R&D version past the sound test, so I would think it should be done in the next couple of weeks. The problem is, don't count on anything anyone "thinks" in this forum, because even Randy isn't sure when it'll be done. I think that's why the thread is so long, because there are A LOT of people excited about this thing. In short, keep posted and wait for the official word from Randy
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Estimate on price is between $800-$900. My question is how much is install after that?
. Estimate on price is between $800-$900. My question is how much is install after that?
Originally Posted by jerjer
if it's around $800, i think i can live with that for an exhaust system with such crazy power. i'm sure the installation is not that hard is it? just simple wiring from the exhaust to the interior..
Originally Posted by jerjer
if it's around $800, i think i can live with that for an exhaust system with such crazy power. i'm sure the installation is not that hard is it? just simple wiring from the exhaust to the interior..
Originally Posted by sdv515
is the power going to be that crazy? are we going to see something with more than 10 hp gained
Originally Posted by SpiderX
when I dynoed the prototype i got about 10 more whp in the open position than in the closed..... plus a nice 7 lb. torque boost......
How much was it making in the closed position?
Originally Posted by MINIotaple
How much was it making in the closed position?
Yeah, they only changed the muffler, not the tubing diameter or routing... At least that is my understanding... So it's a new week, any new news on the exhaust??? Randy and Brian need to get themselves some more help... and a raise... lolol
Originally Posted by obehave
I'll have to say you don't need to defend Matt. There was no target.
His post did trigger the thought though and he is definitely not the only one that's impatient. I have been as well.
Being upset or PO'd doesn't get the product to market any sooner and if it does you get crap like Windows Me
Is anybody not going to buy a PS3 because it got delayed again?
How long we been waiting for that Pilo header??
Matt was going to AMVIV anyway so why stress about the exhaust? It just detracts from the potential fun.
Anyway, it's all in a day and doesn't change the world so let's just have fun here.
His post did trigger the thought though and he is definitely not the only one that's impatient. I have been as well.
Being upset or PO'd doesn't get the product to market any sooner and if it does you get crap like Windows Me
Is anybody not going to buy a PS3 because it got delayed again?
How long we been waiting for that Pilo header??
Matt was going to AMVIV anyway so why stress about the exhaust? It just detracts from the potential fun.
Anyway, it's all in a day and doesn't change the world so let's just have fun here.

Randy, SpiderX, et al.
Just a thought here. When measuring sound levels why not just use the federal standard test proceedures to make your test. Then anyone can test any system, anywhere, and have real numbers to compare.
The latest system look promising.
Just a thought here. When measuring sound levels why not just use the federal standard test proceedures to make your test. Then anyone can test any system, anywhere, and have real numbers to compare.
The latest system look promising.
Holy S*it
. That pretty much certifies it. Does someone wanna loan me $900 so I can get this thing right now

. I am literally giddy. I can not believe how awesome that sounds. The supercharger whine...the exhaust.....JUST LET ME CADDY SO I CAN MAKE THE MONEY AND ORDER ONE





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I think I'm gonna get myself in too much trouble....
. That pretty much certifies it. Does someone wanna loan me $900 so I can get this thing right now

. I am literally giddy. I can not believe how awesome that sounds. The supercharger whine...the exhaust.....JUST LET ME CADDY SO I CAN MAKE THE MONEY AND ORDER ONE





:eek2 :






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I think I'm gonna get myself in too much trouble....
from my knowledge, i think someone mentioned it's making more power than the magnaflow. and the magnaflow is doing quite abit of numbers, so i figure this system is probably the most hp system on the market?
Originally Posted by sdv515
is the power going to be that crazy? are we going to see something with more than 10 hp gained
Well, considering its a 3" straightpipe, it had better make better numbers than restrictive competitors...
Originally Posted by jerjer
from my knowledge, i think someone mentioned it's making more power than the magnaflow. and the magnaflow is doing quite abit of numbers, so i figure this system is probably the most hp system on the market?
Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0
Well, considering its a 3" straightpipe, it had better make better numbers than restrictive competitors...

Props on the ongoing development, Randy. Respects and greetings from your old stomping grounds- Wellington! Gimme a ring if you'll be in town!



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