I just found this stuff on VP fuels website. I bet it would be fun to try in my GP with my JB+ turned up..lol


VP100 – Street Legal Power and Performance
VP100 (aka StreetBlaze 100) is a 100 octane unleaded gasoline
specifically engineered for high-performance street vehicles including
luxury sports cars, muscle cars, street rods, tuner cars, sportbikes,
cruisers and more. Oxygenated with ethanol, this CARB-legal fuel is
environmentally friendly and street legal in most areas. It contains no
metal compounds and won’t harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors.


Advance Your Timing/Increase Your Boost
In normally aspirated engines, VP100 allows for higher compression and more
advanced timing. It will let you increase the boost on your turbocharger or
supercharger for more power, without worrying about detonation. In addition,
the higher octane will let NOS users step up to a more powerful nitrous oxide system.
Designed for use in cast-iron head engines with CRs up to 12:1 and aluminum head
engines up to 14:1, VP100 works well on the latest generation of electronically-controlle

 

Does it say what the ethanol content is?

 

this is all the info i could find on it.
SPECIFICATION SHEET FOR StreetBlaze 100

(Typical Values) Specific Gravity: .75 @ 60°F

Oxygenated: Yes

Color: Orange

Motor Octane: 96

R+M/2: 100

Oxidation Stability (min.) 1440+

Distillation:
10% evap @ 148.0°F

50% evap @ 210.0°F

90% evap @ 216.0°F

E.P. @ 238.0°F

 

i also found this C85 and wondering if i could mix this with my chevron fuel like e85

TAKING E85 TO THE NEXT LEVEL - More Power, More Consistent Tuning

SAN ANTONIO, TX - VP Racing Fuels today introduced “C85” racing fuel, offering significant performance gains over conventional E85 according to Jim Kelly, VP’s Director of Racing Fuel Sales. “Conventional E85 gained some popularity because it was cheap and made some power, but it has a significant downside,” said Kelly. “In addition to requiring a costly E85 carburetor and completely revamped and upgraded fuel system, E85 is corrosive and very inconsistent.”

“When you don’t know if you’re getting 60% ethanol, 80% ethanol or something else, it’s extremely difficult to tune,” Kelly continued. “Many engine builders have cited up to a two-jet swing in their tune from one batch of E85 to the next. By contrast, C85 is blended with the same degree of care and precision as every other VP fuel, with a consistent proportion of ethanol and every other component in every drum. It takes all the guesswork out of tuning.”

“With VP’s focus on power, we’ve engineered C85 to make up to 4% more power and torque than conventional E85,” Kelly added. “In addition to these performance gains, C85’s higher quality pure components make it superior to E85 in terms of cooling effect, resistance to detonation and we’ve added corrosion inhibitors to fight the issues presented by ethanol.”

C85 will work well in drag racing, oval track, off road and virtually any other automotive racing application, in particular forced induction applications due to its lower vapor pressure. Tests of C85 indicate most applications will require richening up by 1 jet size, or 2-3% over current jetting.

“For racers who have already made the financial commitment to use an E85-type fuel , C85 is the best choice ,” Kelly said. “For racers who want more HP and torque than conventional 110 and 112 type fuels without the additional investment in an E85 carb and fuel system upgrade, VP's MS109, VP113 and Q16 continue to be the best race gas alternatives for the money.”

 

sounds like a scam

fuels do not need to be carb approved, in fact if i wanted i can get 117 leaded race fuel or 93 leaded petrol from a fuel station down the street from my school(located in socal where carb is very much relevant) also you dont step up nitrous systems when you want more nitrous, you increase the shot you spray and i have never heard of a 14:1 CR on a petrol motor, it would be pointless to have that much compression only to have to pull out all your timing, even on race fuel it would be pointless

either this company has a really stupid PR guy, or the company is scamming people out of money

 

The company is well known and legit.

 

I ran vp 96 unleaded at about 2'oclock

 

Regarding fuels stick with unleaded race gas, like VP100, MS109, GT260, etc. I've never had any luck with the canned E85 fuels myself. I'd stay with the cheap stuff out of the pump. It works fine.

 

It does... In fact, even windshield wiper fluid needs CARB approval for on-road use.

 

and how was it ? i know its expensive but i love burning race fuel

 

Thanks Terry the reason i originally posted was because we don't have e85 here in Canada to blend, and wanted to see the best way i could be turning the JB+ up to 50% with my stock GP2. The best fuel i can get at the pump is Chevron 94 octane.

 

Nice that Terry still has time to drop in here.

I see on other forums he has been very busy working on a new F82 M4 the last week

 

@Damen114

What setting are you running the GP2 at?

30% or 40% ?

Thanks.

 

Haha yes the new M cars are keeping us very busy...

 

What makes E85 great (IMHO) is that its accessible and inexpensive. At least in certain areas. If neither of those apply to you then definitely stick with unleaded race gas.

 

can you please provide a source for that information?

DOT approved yes, but CARB approved is a load of bull, the fact that i have yet to purchase washer fluid with an EO# on it is proof enough and if you want to talk illegal fuels, CARB is going after and banning tax free race fuels on street driven cars, not taxed race fuels, its the same thing as running red dye diesel in a street legal diesel car(illegal because you are avoiding taxes not because red dye diesel or tax free race fuel pollute more)

 

running the JB+ at 40% with chevron 94 octane.

 

http://www.arb.ca.gov/consprod/regact/awwf/awwf.htm

 

Well I officially just bought my jb+ 15 minutes ago! As well as an alta intake, blackout headlight rings, and a glossy black notch style hood scoop!

 

Wow....

I visit CA on business frequently and you all (californians, not implying you cerenkov) live in a different world out there.

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Question for Terry if he is around (or any other E85 guru).

For my JCW racecar I have choice of fuels. I am in Australia, so the options are a little different.

Locally I can guy a 100RON pump fuel that has 10% ethanol. Alternatively I can do my own E25 blend that also works out to 100RON. I can also buy race fuel 102RON, but that is 5x the price

So given the choice of an E10 or E25 blend, both 100 RON which is better to use?

As far as I can see it the main advantage of E25 mix is that the increased evaporative cooling effect of the ethanol will reduce temps. However, on the downside there is all the messy mixing and blending (with potential for mistakes), there is increased fuel flow putting more stress on pumps etc, and there is less range on a tank, which might be an issue in endurance races.

For the sake of simplicity I am leaning towards the pump E10 100RON mix.

Anyone have any thoughts

Robbo.

 

Absolutely no advantage to blending EtOH into gasoline if the result is still 100RON. Best way to go for you is to stick with the 100 pump gasoline. If you want to play around a bit look into Torco or another [real] octane booster.

Just monitor timing closely and see which type of fuel works best for your goals. As mentioned before, drops in 3* groups of timing is indicative of an unhappy engine, so look out for that. Start low, do your best to control for variables such as intake temps, humidity and gear selection when comparing timing values.

Good luck.

 

Ok Gurus....last question before I buy or bypass!

The HP gains are achieved at what RPM range?
Do I get the additional HP gain through out the range from start to 6th?
Or is the HP gain only at top end?

Not the best question I know, and I'm not savvy with the engine language, but one of you will get what I'm asking.

 

Here's a dyno from the Burger website:

 

@cerenkov
Thanks young man.
But now another can-o-corn is opened.......shucks!
The HP gain there is 9 HP if I'm looking correctly, is that right?
Just asking as OLD eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be.

So 193 stock
And 212 max per the dyno

And Thanks for your reply..........
Everyone please ignore the math whiz that's pretending to be the Nutty Professor.