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Old May 22, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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im on oahu. i have mine turned a couple clicks down. at 12 oclock im at 20lbs all day. im not comfortable with that.
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cm.d
im on oahu. i have mine turned a couple clicks down. at 12 oclock im at 20lbs all day. im not comfortable with that.
hmm what kind of set up do you have. i haven't hit passed 18 since that day.. I may want to do a click down...
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Anyone notice coolant temp running hotter with the tune? Mine was consistently 220-223 with 50%, took it off to take in for service and it's running 190 max, that's a big difference to me........any thoughts or problems with that?
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VX crazy
Anyone notice coolant temp running hotter with the tune? Mine was consistently 220-223 with 50%, took it off to take in for service and it's running 190 max, that's a big difference to me........any thoughts or problems with that?
Even before the JB+ was put on, I was getting up to 220 and some days in the summer it'll idle up to 230 in traffic but that's normal in stop and go. Other than that, id check to see how long the fan stays on.
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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sport mode off ~220F
sport mode on ~180F

One of the reasons why I'm always in sport mode.
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by minimike21
hmm what kind of set up do you have. i haven't hit passed 18 since that day.. I may want to do a click down...
CMS: JCW exhaust and a drop in. Nothing crazy.
 
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Old May 22, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cerenkov
sport mode off ~220F
sport mode on ~180F

One of the reasons why I'm always in sport mode.
Would this be the case for 2007 Cooper S models in sport mode running cooler?
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 02:43 AM
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Would this be the case for 2007 Cooper S models in sport mode running cooler?
Yes what engine you guys have? I have the N18 in a coupe S, and always in sport mode, just didn't have my gauge to tell me temps until after I already had tune on and want to be sure what normal operating temps are for this engiine.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 04:22 AM
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Would this be the case for 2007 Cooper S models in sport mode running cooler?
I'm not sure when they started using a two-stage thermostat in conjunction with the sport button but I want to say that it was with the N18 motors.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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My 2011 doesn't. It works with the AC on max like previous years. For some reason I was thinking they started it on the late 2012 early 2013 models.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cerenkov

I'm not sure when they started using a two-stage thermostat in conjunction with the sport button but I want to say that it was with the N18 motors.
N18 is from 2011+. All do the 180 deg mode but triggered differently. 2011-2012: only with AC max fan, max cold and certain engine loads. Sport button: no effect. 2013 S's can trigger it with the sport button (2013 JCW always 180 regardless of sport button).
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by yesti
N18 is from 2011+. All do the 180 deg mode but triggered differently. 2011-2012: only with AC max fan, max cold and certain engine loads. Sport button: no effect. 2013 S's can trigger it with the sport button (2013 JCW always 180 regardless of sport button).
Yes I believe it started with the N18 JCW's, MINI did improve them by lowering the operating temperatures.
 
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Old May 26, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Bowing Out

I am saddened to report that I have parted with the MINI - for completely unrelated reasons to its "wellbeing" (financial, on my part, was the impetus) - I was going to plug my FS thread (nice items (I no longer need) related to this thread, lol) but it's already SOLD.

(MINI drivers are fast!!)

Anyway my parting comment might be for someone reading this thread and on the fence about the JB+

As has been reiterated countless times, by myself too - GET IT.
It is a stellar product.
 
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Old May 26, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by minniehaha
I am saddened to report that I have parted with the MINI - for completely unrelated reasons to its "wellbeing" (financial, on my part, was the impetus) - I was going to plug my FS thread (nice items (I no longer need) related to this thread, lol) but it's already SOLD.

(MINI drivers are fast!!)

Anyway my parting comment might be for someone reading this thread and on the fence about the JB+

As has been reiterated countless times, by myself too - GET IT.
It is a stellar product.
I'm sorry to hear that, it's not easy parting with a Mini because they're so much fun to drive! I don't see myself parting with my MCS anytime soon, I've put too much money into it.

What car will you buy now?
 
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Old May 27, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Yeah - the money into it (+ potential $ in), plus the standard CostOfOwnership, it didn't work out in the big picture, unfortunately, c'et la vie.

I got a brand new 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage, it's the modern Mini the MINI didn't feel like replicating...?

It was a good time on this forum, lots-o-good folk, peace dudes.



Originally Posted by Systemlord
I'm sorry to hear that, it's not easy parting with a Mini because they're so much fun to drive! I don't see myself parting with my MCS anytime soon, I've put too much money into it.

What car will you buy now?
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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For those with the CAN tool, if you have an aftermarket DP...do you have to do anything else besides leave the CAN tool plugged in at all times for it to eliminate the cel on the dash? Thanks
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RobMuntean
For those with the CAN tool, if you have an aftermarket DP...do you have to do anything else besides leave the CAN tool plugged in at all times for it to eliminate the cel on the dash? Thanks
Yup, once plugged in, program for no CAT option, and leave it alone. No CEL since... If you have one, enjoy, heard they are no longer available...
 
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Old May 30, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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anyone just running the jb+ without any other mods on there GP2.not planning on any other mods but would love to try this out.i run chevron 94 oct in my GP2.would i also need to get the can tool .cheers.
 
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Old May 30, 2014 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Damon114
anyone just running the jb+ without any other mods on there GP2.not planning on any other mods but would love to try this out.i run chevron 94 oct in my GP2.would i also need to get the can tool .cheers.
Highly recommended. It is also recommended to turn the JB+ down to 11'oclock for the JCW/GP2. The CAN tool is discontinued.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 06:34 AM
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If using a JB+ you should add a ScangaugeII or some other smart phone app to monitor things.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by yesti
Highly recommended. It is also recommended to turn the JB+ down to 11'oclock for the JCW/GP2. The CAN tool is discontinued.
thanks for the info ,i just ordered it,should be here next week can't wait.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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FYI, I found out with the CAN tool hooked up my car would not allow emissions tests to complete. Luckily I found this out before an inspection was due.

As long as I had it hooked up my O2 and CAT tests were not ready. took CAN tool off and some miles down the road and all was ready, hooked it back up and not ready again.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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Has anyone tried mixing methanol with a full tank of gas as a octane booster? I had a buddy say to try 2 litres with a full tank.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iminir56
Has anyone tried mixing methanol with a full tank of gas as a octane booster? I had a buddy say to try 2 litres with a full tank.
It's nearly the same as mixing ethanol. Hell, some people mix in toluene. Make sure that you mix it in the correct ratios to keep you from going lean. People use E85 because it is convenient (at the same gas station) and cheap. Methanol where I live is ~$6/gallon (so not terribly expensive).

I'm not sure what octane levels you are trying to achieve. But a 20% mix is 2.6 gallons based on a 13.2 gallon tank.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cerenkov
It's nearly the same as mixing ethanol. Hell, some people mix in toluene. Make sure that you mix it in the correct ratios to keep you from going lean. People use E85 because it is convenient (at the same gas station) and cheap. Methanol where I live is ~$6/gallon (so not terribly expensive).

I'm not sure what octane levels you are trying to achieve. But a 20% mix is 2.6 gallons based on a 13.2 gallon tank.
Oh alright. Thanks!

Ive been using torco for awhile but im at my last can, and i dont really want to buy another case because shipping to Canada was pretty steep.
There is no e85 where i live and my buddy just told me the other day where i can get methanol. Should be the cheapest option for me.

So basically i should follow the procedure as adding ethanol?
 
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