Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R56) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:54 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:58 AM
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Yes I completely agree!! I'd love it if you came out with a JB4
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chandler5192
yes i completely agree!! I'd love it if you came out with a jb4
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS


If Cobb would release the map definitions, etc, in to their tuner pro suite we already own I'd be happy to write a flash map using Cobb's interface for you guys so you're not stuck with Alta's stuff as the only option.
This I would be interested in!

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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Also is it just my really heavy foot or is everyone else seeing lower mpg? I'm averaging around 27ish
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chandler5192
Also is it just my really heavy foot or is everyone else seeing lower mpg? I'm averaging around 27ish
I've tracked MPG from since the car was new and have not seen a change. I average 27 and it is 100% city driving.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Ok. I used to average around 32ish. Maybe I just drive it harder now. Either way I'm not complaining
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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When I first got the JB+ and would accelerate to 5-6k rpm regularly, mpg dropped to about 28-29. Now that I've had for a couple months, I've laid off the hard accelerations and am getting 30-31mpg.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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I powershift my GP and hit 21psi and I have no idea what my MPG's are. All I know it's is a blast to drive and it saves me $700 a month from my CTSV Coupe

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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Damn, I get 24mpg....so much for an econobox lol
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NewCooperFanatic
Damn, I get 24mpg....so much for an econobox lol
i get 24.7 all city driving. makes me sad. but i'm also running 25% e85. recently started driving like a real grandpa and got it up to 26.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Averaging 28mpg compared to 32 I used to get lol.

Speaking if mpg...probably didn't help this morning when I floored it against a 335xi. Absolutely left him in dust, I was a bit shocked to be honest. My grandfather has that car and it isn't some scrub either.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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24-25 here
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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Damn....that extra 400ish lbs takes it's toll lol

Just like Horizon I'm all city driving. Living In downtown LA is no joke, still no regrets getting it in manual though :P
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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you guys are making me feel a lot better. i remember reading about people getting mid 30s. i don't beat on my car and i have been getting ~28mpg in mixed driving. i guess i'm pretty average.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Terry, I know you said you were still pursuing the JB4 for the N18 - any progress on that? I believe I remember you saying you weren't seeing the gains you hoped for, but were still actively looking into it.

I think it'd be great if you could make that work, especially in light of the OBD tuning that is supposedly coming from Manic.
Nothing is planned currently. But R&D continues and who knows what the future holds! Flash tuning is available for the N18 now. The issue is loading/removing it. An at home flash utility for the car would be welcome news especially for those planning larger turbos in the future. But for the OEM turbo the flash tunes seem to be limited to MT cars and are producing similar gains to the JB+. We'll have to see how it all pans out.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Ok guys got the intercooler installed and JB+ at 100% and runnin about 98 octane with CAI and 2nd cat delete. Car pulls awesome! Just curious what you guys think is the best downpipe for the JCW? And will a catless downpipe really add a ton more power over the JCW downpipe? Or is it maybe only about 10 more whp?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Go-Cart
Ok guys got the intercooler installed and JB+ at 100% and runnin about 98 octane with CAI and 2nd cat delete. Car pulls awesome! Just curious what you guys think is the best downpipe for the JCW? And will a catless downpipe really add a ton more power over the JCW downpipe? Or is it maybe only about 10 more whp?
Your brave. I've got an intercooler, akrapovic downpipe, intake, exhaust, cooler plugs with a 30% mix of e85 and I have never been anywhere near 100%.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wzabrouski
Your brave. I've got an intercooler, akrapovic downpipe, intake, exhaust, cooler plugs with a 30% mix of e85 and I have never been anywhere near 100%.

If it makes you feel better I actually backed mine off. Running 100% on an S isn't worth the risk.

If you do some digging of threads back in 08-09, guys were cracking pistons pursuing the 20-21 psi mark. These N18's aren't drastically different from N14's. 18psi is perfect, it leaves some room for over-boost, and hotter climate I feel.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Just installed the jb+ on my mini tuned at 40% .
Jeff at burgerxxxx told me to use the jb+ at 40% because my cooper s has the jcw tuning kit :(
Honestly I'm very much tempted to go higher on percentage considering that my car has the akrapocic downpipe , alta intercooler , forge recirc. Valve , muffler delete hose , k&n filter ....
The question is how high in percentage can I go with my jb?
Ps: I run my car on 98octane
Temp in Beirut is around 60 F in winter and goes up to 90F in summer
 

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dorykiki
Just installed the jb+ on my mini tuned at 40% .
Jeff at burgerxxxx told me to use the jb+ at 40% because my cooper s has the jcw tuning kit :(
Honestly I'm very much tempted to go higher on percentage considering that my car has the akrapocic downpipe , alta intercooler , forge recirc. Valve , muffler delete hose , k&n filter ....
The question is how high in percentage can I go with my jb?
Ps: I run my car on 98octane
Temp in Beirut is around 60 F in winter and goes up to 90F in summer
Your fuel over there is the big unknown. I've seen some logs showing its more like 91 octane. In any event use the CAN Tool to monitor timing and from that you can determine the overall aggressiveness.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Well im running 100% on a JCW and it has lower compression that the S and also has forged pistons im pretty sure from reading online a bit. I have been monitoring the timing and it looks great. Does not seem to be any knock. Mariokart is running 100% also on his GP and the compression is higher than my JCW. But my main question was how much more HP would a catless downpipe really bring? If its only around 10whp just not sure if its worth it for me.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Go-Cart
Well im running 100% on a JCW and it has lower compression that the S and also has forged pistons im pretty sure from reading online a bit. I have been monitoring the timing and it looks great. Does not seem to be any knock. Mariokart is running 100% also on his GP and the compression is higher than my JCW. But my main question was how much more HP would a catless downpipe really bring? If its only around 10whp just not sure if its worth it for me.
Do you have aftermarket pistons? Because the JCW/GP are not forged.
The downpipe is big improvement, almost as much as a JB+ at 50%, the sound is 25% louder so I added a vibrant resonator where the second cat was.
Btw, I'm also complete with my own Mini downpipe. I'm making 50 of them.

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MarioKart
Do you have aftermarket pistons? Because the JCW/GP are not forged.
The downpipe is big improvement, almost as much as a JB+ at 50%, the sound is 25% louder so I added a vibrant resonator where the second cat was.
Btw, I'm also complete with my own Mini downpipe. I'm making 50 of them.

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http://www.motoringfile.com/2012/05/07/24014/

So i guess it dose not really say if they are forged it just says :
  • Upgraded/Optimized Turbo Pistons and four piston brakes (adapted from the MINI Challenge race car)
 
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