One the weather is dry outside, I will try to record my 0-60. I plan to dyno my MINI soon if monkey wrench near my house ever calls me back! I think I'm gonna move my setting to the 1 o clock position. That's the max I'm gonna go with since I'm not trying to maximize my potential from my MINI.

 

I have 2011 R60 All4 coopers
How can I learn my engine is N18 or not?
BTW I have plx devices and android connected.
I'm using torque application.
I'm from Turkey.
Can we read engine oil temp?

 

Timing. E85 leaned it out.

Had been running at 10 o'clock per Terry's JCW recommendation. Will crank over time evaluating data logs.

 

Anyone using methanol injection only, and not E85?

 

It is an N18 because it's a 2011 build.

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This would be my route in the future. I think there are a couple three people on here misting, so: yes you can and it does work to let you up the boost. BMS sells a kit on their site so they'd be a good source of info too. Pros and cons versus E85 i'd have to read/research.

Edit: the most obvious thing is the tune should be adaptive to meth so if you run out your engine won't spontaneously combust. The JB+ is a 'hard coded' setting that isn't adjustable on the fly. The JB4 hopefully will solve that problem soon

Wait, aren't you using meth, NewCooperFanatic?!

 

So does that mean those times are w/passenger?

 

I'm really hoping a Jb4 becomes reality.

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Yes I am, but here's the kicker,

It's not advancing timing, and this is with the JB+ at the 3 o'clock position.

With my current settings I should easily max it out, but can't.

The kit is working properly, merged on to the freeway with 102 degree intake temps, one 3rd gear pull later it was 52 degrees. Ambient was 80 today.

So I'm a bit lost with this.

 

I've looked at the data in ScanXL and there is a lot of variance in scan times. So during the 0-60 run, the DashCommand app might be a little late picking up the start of the 0-60 or it might be a little late in picking up when you actually achieve 60 mph so you'll could be a few tenths off, which is significant. So there can be a lot of timing errors because the times are so short. You can kind of eliminate this by doing many many runs.

Now if you do 1/4 mile times the times are much longer so it diminishes this effect. The problem with 1/4 mile runs is finding a place to do them safely and without getting a big fat ticket - the terminal speeds are quite illegal.

That being said, we're not trying to do scientific research so no matter what kind of times your doing just make sure you're having fun and definitely report them.

FWIW The best I've done is 6.5 with JB+ on default. I want to know if anyone can get sub 6.0's.

 

The DME constantly tries to max out timing with or without the jb+. What kind of advance are you seeing? What do expect that is different from what you see? I am also curious as to what afr you see and possibly egt at the first O2 sensor.

 

Did you put in a full 32oz can?

 

I think everyone should just take a chance and get the JB+ and then upgrade to hopefully a jB4 later. I drive my car to redline maybe 100 times a day, beat the snot out of it. You will be so happy. YOLO!!!!

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correct, a full 32oz can to a full tank of 93 octane.

 

Don't have a way of getting EGTs, unless a scan gauge can do so, but AFR is close to 11(methanol=rich....while ethanol=lean).

That's the thing, with the JB at the 3oclock position, the car is showing 0 timing, as if it's too much boost, therefore pulling timing. I was expecting the methanol(higher octane) to allow for the extra boost, therefore allowing the car to increase timing through the rev, but it's not doing that.
It certainly should with the IAT's I'm reading.

Just trying to figure out why this is the case.

Timing was good with E85, but not methanol?

 

Did you move the nozzle? I remember reading before that you had it after the IAT(?) sensor so the DME wasn't factoring it in? But I guess you're saying the winter weather should be trumping that anyway? Have you asked Terry? I'm taking it you also lost power vs. E85?

 

Your A/F seems way too rich for this engine. How does the A/F change if you spray more/less?

Edit: after quick interwebbing, are you running 100% meth or a 50/50 mix? Since you're rich you should go more towards 50/50 and/or spray less.

 

Driver only (220 lbs.) I timed both ways. 1.5+ slower w/ passenger.

 

The nozzle has been moved, so the car now picks up the cooler air charge.

These cars are highly effective at adjusting the fuel trims to meth, it's pretty awesome. You can throw as much as you want and it always adjusts. Tons of guys running 100% meth.

Methanol actually has a bigger kick than E85, more to be gained with it. But that's not to say E85 is no good, it's good as well. It'll come down to what you tune to run...which we don't have yet lol.

It's just weird that the timing is constantly at zero with the current JB plus settings.

I have emailed Terry in the past. Said my kit might not be spraying right...but it is lol.

Was hoping to see if any other member was just using methanol and the JB+. Looks like most guys are opting for the E85, more convenient I guess. Or those octane boosters.

 

Have you checked timing advance without the jb+? I see 3-5 without a tune (stock DME).

 

With the Can Tool, and timing set to the gas gauge, I was seeing 9+(meth as well).

I think that is the most that it reads with it set there, when I set it to the speedo, it goes well above 9.

 

i got a r60s and always use 93 to fill up, what is the most i can go on the jb+ on the settings? only mod on my car is the VIP cai.

 

I believe the recommendation is to leave it alone (at 12o'clock).

 

yeah, if you have no supporting mods, leave the JB+ alone.

it was designed to run on its stock setting with 93......if you try ramping it up, you are going to likely damage your motor.

 

If I only had an E85 gas station near me..

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