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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GINTANI
Im trying to get a hold of Randy to chime in to this very subject. We were there at Laguna Seca, he was driving and he wasnt twincharged at the time. Randy did switch to a twincharge setup later and I posted his custom manifold on the twin charged thread.

Who do you think shot the video that was posted? Take a wild guess?
Just to be clear, what Yaki MINI posted above is accurate.

Steve Diniz has our Stage 4 kit (not twincharged) and competed against Randy's Twin charged car at Summit Point Raceway for 2 races. With all Randy's extra power from the twincharge he still couldn't keep Steve with his failed ABS off his back. Just watch the video above for proof of that. Randy won the 1st Race and Steve won the second.

The Black Race MINI we built in the picture above is still on the track today and maked roughly 330hp 300whp. This is the car we competed in at the Eurotuner GP, again see video above. This car is Turbo only! Notice how we beat the Focus Sport turbo Focus, Eat your heart out Fireball Tim!
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Hey hows it going that was some awesome stuff in Vegas. We had a great conversation love to talk to you sometime. Give me a call.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GINTANI
We used the dynograph to display the power gain from the intake manifold design and not the IC.

Touche

I posted some more pics to understand more about our system
very sexy piece - clearly a lot work was put into this.
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Please see my previous post in this thread. I gave a link to the original New Intercooler (Gintani) thread that I started in 2005. I took quite a bashing at that time for mentioning (perhaps prematurely) the Gintani system and some of my data, including the net difference in weight between the stock setup and my modified system, temperature deltas, etc.

I have no intention of presenting any additional or more detailed data (e.g., hours of data logging using beta Bim-Sport) because I do not want to get caught up in the pissing contest that has been going here. Nor will I respond to any pm's for my independent data on this product. Again, interested parties could check the much older thread, since there is a lot of relevant information there.

Have fun....
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI-Madness
Just to be clear, what Yaki MINI posted above is accurate.

Steve Diniz has our Stage 4 kit (not twincharged) and competed against Randy's Twin charged car at Summit Point Raceway for 2 races. With all Randy's extra power from the twincharge he still couldn't keep Steve with his failed ABS off his back. Just watch the video above for proof of that. Randy won the 1st Race and Steve won the second.

The Black Race MINI we built in the picture above is still on the track today and maked roughly 330hp 300whp. This is the car we competed in at the Eurotuner GP, again see video above. This car is Turbo only! Notice how we beat the Focus Sport turbo Focus, Eat your heart out Fireball Tim!

maybe b/c there were only like 5 ~ 6 cars including a classic mini racing at that time..? and compare to MMs and Webb's cars, they seemed obviously under powered ...
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sprp85
maybe b/c there were only like 5 ~ 6 cars including a classic mini racing at that time..? and compare to MMs and Webb's cars, they seemed obviously under powered ...
I didn't think to mention this before and I want this thread to stay on track But there were several different classes racing that day so the Randy and Steve were racing against each other. Whalen and Brian would be able to give you the rest of the info from that day (ie. how many classes racing that day and how many or who was in each one).
So I apologize for not thinking to mention that.
Otherwise, I wasn't there myself that day but seeing all of the footage tells me there was some good racing coming from everyone
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Can you use that manifold with a Cooper hood or has it got to be a Cooper S hood??
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Can you use that manifold with a Cooper hood or has it got to be a Cooper S hood??
I see what you did there
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Hi my name is Alex. I am one of the owners of Gintani. I’m happy to be a part of NAM and try to help you guys with anything you need that’s mostly over the phone if you would like to call us for any information. You won’t be seeing me on here to much because I’m usually in the shop working on developing new products. Now moving on to answering your question, you will not be able to use the non Cooper S hood with this system because of clearance issues. See you guy's around......
 
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Do you have a real engineering degree? Umm last time I checked they didnt offer two week courses
Sure way to speak for your "education". Your personal insult on a public forum seem to prove that you are childish and it baffles me that someone with your low level of intellect could be a vendor on this website. I don't know anyone personally on this forum but I can tell you that I have lost all respect for you, as well as the company you represent.

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Im sure that RMW makes his products to his best abilities, However please refrain on your comments I am a vendor and this is my thread so show you have an education.
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
since you have spent so long getting products ready.... and you have had 4yrs to do it.... you should be ready for the track on the 9th of Feb to show us all of the power that your products make....

the eyes of NAM are watching and waiting.....
Wow... calling people out on power huh...

WELL... like i have said many times before


RUN the number listed in my signature below... no nitrious with a factory supercharger without drag radials or slicks... then start running your mouth about your massive tunning POWAH!

and don't give me that lame A$$ excuse of... ohh i don't do the drag racing thing... i race on a real track... lets see how much power you are really making and run that thing 1320 feet.
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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then start running your mouth about your massive tunning POWAH!
'tunning POWAH' sounds like something to do with 18 wheelers crossed with Batman.
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PGT
'tunning POWAH' sounds like something to do with 18 wheelers crossed with Batman.

lol... it was my half-a$$ed attempt at keeping my comment light hearted...
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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And drag racing is not the best test of HP. Too many variables to contend with.

Do the 30-80 mph run, no talent needed except for the right foot.
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
And drag racing is not the best test of HP. Too many variables to contend with.

Do the 30-80 mph run, no talent needed except for the right foot.
Just squeezing 3rd gear out. We'll need at least 10 passes to do stats-prefferably more!

Jeremy
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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IC TEST:
Take one stock MCS pre plumbed for a Gintani to a race track, do three 5 lap stints with a 10 min. break between each stint. Then remove stock IC and install Gintani then run three 5 lap stints with 10 min break between stints. Chart each laps before and after and the averages should speak for themselves. Use a neutral driver for all stints. Show me consistantly faster lap times with less or no fall off and it's a winner....
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by isellem
Wow... calling people out on power huh...

WELL... like i have said many times before


RUN the number listed in my signature below... no nitrious with a factory supercharger without drag radials or slicks... then start running your mouth about your massive tunning POWAH!

and don't give me that lame A$$ excuse of... ohh i don't do the drag racing thing... i race on a real track... lets see how much power you are really making and run that thing 1320 feet.

why would I waste my time ONLY going 13.2?
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. It's to bad you became a road course track rat now.
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
IC TEST:
Take one stock MCS pre plumbed for a Gintani to a race track, do three 5 lap stints with a 10 min. break between each stint. Then remove stock IC and install Gintani then run three 5 lap stints with 10 min break between stints. Chart each laps before and after and the averages should speak for themselves. Use a neutral driver for all stints. Show me consistantly faster lap times with less or no fall off and it's a winner....
dude you better ask johan if the gintani can be installed that quick .
 
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by newbs49
I was thinking the same thing. It's to bad you became a road course track rat now.

don't worry Larry,
we are going to dance before it becomes a road machine
 
Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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No vendor on this site would do that

Originally Posted by minimarks
IC TEST:
Take one stock MCS pre plumbed for a Gintani to a race track, do three 5 lap stints with a 10 min. break between each stint. Then remove stock IC and install Gintani then run three 5 lap stints with 10 min break between stints. Chart each laps before and after and the averages should speak for themselves. Use a neutral driver for all stints. Show me consistantly faster lap times with less or no fall off and it's a winner....
Neither that test nor anything like it is ever going to happen, whether the product involved was by Gintani or any other vendor.
 
Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
why would I waste my time ONLY going 13.2?


Ohh don't worry you wont waste your time... you wont get a 13.2 at all.. more like a 13.5 most likely!

LOL

Its quite simple. You just dont want to lose in front of all of your nutswingers... its ok. I understand. The Jan tune is all very good and am very impressed by the work you have done with these cars. Now i would just like to see some real performance numbers. Your dyno is a little optomistic... and if it isn't you shouldn't have any problem beating my measly 13.2 at 105.5mph. So just do it already!!! I will be the first to congratulate you!

Paul Webster has been chasing my 13.2 for 2 years... ask him how diffiuclt it is. And he is a real drag racer. So best of luck to you. don't talk ***** if you can't do it. And don't call people out unless you can walk your talk. otherwise... you will get called out and you will have to back into the corner like you just did.

And as far as the measurement of hp 30-50 roll or whatever. i do agree that is a pretty good method but I would prefer to keep the shenanigans off the street, in a controled enviornment plus... its only 1320 feet. its absolutely on the level for everyone in the coutry plus you get a nice little timeslip to prove what you have done.

remember the rules are simple and representive of what you would drive on the street and what everyone owns...

Street tires (no drag radials)
Weight removal:no back seat only Carbon hoods and trunk and stuff is fine...
M45 blower
No nitrious
No turbo

its all you buddy. I hope you do it!!! It might make me go back out and buy another mini just to move the bar again...
 

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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Isellem I thought it was me who was getting old and had tempoary memory loss, I ran 13.09 at Easter last year, its the 105.5 I cant beat though we did run a 104.5.

I have to confess that on a customers car the RMW head has made 20 whp more than we've ever seen, thats with stock rev limiter and 380s.

If this engine was in ours it be going high 12s at 106-7.

So you better dust off those simpson race shoes Isellem
 
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Very nice Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 



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