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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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again, most will NOT cut up the car to accomplish what you are talking about.
there are enough people ou thier that WOULD cut up some stuff to make a fmic kit work. If you guys would make a kit that showed where to cutand where to drill. I would drop some serious cash on that. I dont have the welder and pipe bender to do my own r&d, but you guys do!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Johan
Try doing a search before you claim that mini owners aren't "thinking outside the box"

That's a laim statment.

There are many FMIC's floating around here that have been custom built...Almost all of them are either twin charge or turbo only...Take THAT into consideration as well.

There are many people in the mini community thinking outside the box, just because YOU don't know it, doesn't mean it's not happening!

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Another short sighted know-it-all heard from eh Johan?

Look at me..I'm designing <insert old idea here> and mine's better than yours so(in my little dream world) you're stupid
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
again, most will NOT cut up the car to accomplish what you are talking about.
reading an issue of super street a few months back they were installing a fmic kit for a 240 sx made by greddy. Mind you the kit was made for that car and they still had to cut to make it fit, But the directions from greddy told them where to do so. With the right directions you could get alot of people interested in doing whatever it take to have an effective fmic for the mcs. It eeds to get done.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by astrochex
Is that a load bearing intercooler?!
It's not an IC, it's a radiator.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Just to pee on the FMIC frenzy, where is the proof that this is worth the time/money or do people just want to look like Hondas that badly?

Anybody that thinks you're going to get a $100 FMIC for the MINI is deluded. If one ever shows for under $500 I'll crap my pants.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniStupidfun
there are enough people ou thier that WOULD cut up some stuff to make a fmic kit work. If you guys would make a kit that showed where to cutand where to drill. I would drop some serious cash on that. I dont have the welder and pipe bender to do my own r&d, but you guys do!

I hear what you are saying but honestly its very few that will do it. When you factor in the cost and manufacturing fees etc the kit will be very expensive to stock for the number sold. If you get 20 people to dole out the cash I will start production on one right now. For me to continue to finance 5 projects at once and start another one to just sell 2 kits it's just not worth it. I know Dr. Obnxs did a thread to start stuff for the Cooper crowd because they were complaining of not having any high perf parts. As soon as the $$$ was brought up only 2 came forward. Just a little history
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniStupidfun
With the right directions you could get alot of people interested in doing whatever it take to have an effective fmic for the mcs. It needs to get done.
Why?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Just to pee on the FMIC frenzy, where is the proof that this is worth the time/money or do people just want to look like Hondas that badly?

Anybody that thinks you're going to get a $100 FMIC for the MINI is deluded. If one ever shows for under $500 I'll crap my pants.
I dont think it has anything to do with "looking" like a Honda.

It has everything to do with the possible advantageve of have a colder air charge from a fmic, And your right it is not going to be cheap but it may be worth spending 1500 bucks like the w2a ic. Its up to the companys that make mod to find if it is worth while mod
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Why?
This is the most talked about and most misunderstood product with the mcs, im by no means saying that i know, im just a consumer
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniStupidfun
It has everything to do with the possible advantageve of have a colder air charge from a fmic, And your right it is not going to be cheap but it may be worth spending 1500 bucks like the w2a ic. Its up to the companys that make mod to find if it is worth while mod
What real advantage would there be?

And who would pay so much for such a small change (assuming the change is better than the oem)?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
I hear what you are saying but honestly its very few that will do it. When you factor in the cost and manufacturing fees etc the kit will be very expensive to stock for the number sold. If you get 20 people to dole out the cash I will start production on one right now. For me to continue to finance 5 projects at once and start another one to just sell 2 kits it's just not worth it. I know Dr. Obnxs did a thread to start stuff for the Cooper crowd because they were complaining of not having any high perf parts. As soon as the $$$ was brought up only 2 came forward. Just a little history
how about some r&d, if you guys found a way to make a fmic kit that work comparative or better then what is on the market people would surface to buy such a kit
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hornguys
What real advantage would there be?

And who would pay so much for such a small change (assuming the change is better than the oem)?
good question Thats why mini tuners should dabbleing into that option.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniStupidfun
there are enough people ou thier that WOULD cut up some stuff to make a fmic kit work. If you guys would make a kit that showed where to cutand where to drill. I would drop some serious cash on that. I dont have the welder and pipe bender to do my own r&d, but you guys do!
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reading an issue of super street a few months back they were installing a fmic kit for a 240 sx made by greddy. Mind you the kit was made for that car and they still had to cut to make it fit, But the directions from greddy told them where to do so. With the right directions you could get alot of people interested in doing whatever it take to have an effective fmic for the mcs. It eeds to get done.
Again, IT HAS BEEN DONE, check the link I have posted.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Russell Cory you do not need to hack your MINI up to get results. Re read my earlier post. Also louver's on hoods came about in the 50's for looks. Come on people venting through the top of the hood to relieve heat? Simple test to save future arguments. Remove your hood go for a drive watch your diagnostic temperature readings !!!! WOW why is the temp going up ??
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Again, IT HAS BEEN DONE, check the link I have posted.
tuls car is turbo he can use longer IC piping
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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we think of ways to make an IC more effective at doing its job above a hot engine, so lets put a better IC on top of a hot engine. it doesnt seem like very progressive thinking.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrominis
Russell Cory you do not need to hack your MINI up to get results. Re read my earlier post. Also louver's on hoods came about in the 50's for looks. Come on people venting through the top of the hood to relieve heat? Simple test to save future arguments. Remove your hood go for a drive watch your diagnostic temperature readings !!!! WOW why is the temp going up ??
Again try doing a search
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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we think of ways to make an IC more effective at doing its job above a hot engine, so lets put a better IC on top of a hot engine. it doesnt seem like very progressive thinking.
Maybe.

Although, lately I've been learning that the German engineers didn't just fall off the turnip truck (as we say here in the South).

In fact, I can't think of any vendors who'd claim to be as gifted - or as successful - in the engineering area. The mods we do have that actually make a difference (pulley, head, exhaust, ecu, etc) didn't come from re-inventing the wheel. Turbo excepted of course.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Again try doing a search
Johan, Thanks for the advise. My intention was to perhaps help a few others on this thread. I already improved the questionable heat situation. I hate to repeat myself but re read my post listings.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Johan, Thanks for the advise. My intention was to perhaps help a few others on this thread. I already improved the questionable heat situation. I hate to repeat myself but re read my post listings.
I have read your post and there is no need for me to re-read them, It's good advise, thanks for considering it
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrominis
Russell Cory you do not need to hack your MINI up to get results. Re read my earlier post. Also louver's on hoods came about in the 50's for looks. Come on people venting through the top of the hood to relieve heat? Simple test to save future arguments. Remove your hood go for a drive watch your diagnostic temperature readings !!!! WOW why is the temp going up ??
Louvers? Now you're making me look stupid...Oii...lol:

BTW...with all due respect to Nitrominis, we're Mini soulmates...he knows what he's talking about...
 

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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrominis
Russell Cory you do not need to hack your MINI up to get results. Re read my earlier post. Also louver's on hoods came about in the 50's for looks. Come on people venting through the top of the hood to relieve heat? Simple test to save future arguments. Remove your hood go for a drive watch your diagnostic temperature readings !!!! WOW why is the temp going up ??
Hi, Nitro. I have been considering cutting a hole in my hood -- and NOT for looks, but for what I thought was obvious: cooling. If this difficult and risky procedure will NOT yield improvement, then I REALLY want to know.

I am not trying to start an argument, but you are the first one I have read who suggests that venting will NOT help cool under the hood. Rather than perform the experiment you suggest (okay, so I am lazy) can you please explain why venting will NOT help? If you can sell me on the "why NOT" vent, you will save me a bunch of time and money and sweat. I'm always up for that.

Thanks.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Johan, Thanks for the advise. My intention was to perhaps help a few others on this thread. I already improved the questionable heat situation. I hate to repeat myself but re read my post listings.
Nitro, I went back and reread your postings. I'm still not sure where you are comming from. I belive you are back to a stock IC in the factory location, correct? So how did you "already improve" your questionable heat situation? Also I think completely removing the hood would not be the same as installing some kind of rear vent on the hood, as just a vent of some sort would use a venturi effect and possibably suck heat and air out, what you think?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Maybe.

Although, lately I've been learning that the German engineers didn't just fall off the turnip truck (as we say here in the South).

In fact, I can't think of any vendors who'd claim to be as gifted - or as successful - in the engineering area. The mods we do have that actually make a difference (pulley, head, exhaust, ecu, etc) didn't come from re-inventing the wheel. Turbo excepted of course.
Point taken, And i completley agree. The ic is there for a reason. But that doesnt mean that it is the best location for the IC.
 
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