Are you referring to this manifold as the 3rd gen ported manifold?

 

No. That's a 2nd gen, if you want a 3rd gen, you should talk to JMTC or Battle Tuning for one..

 

Did the dyno and not convinced the numbers are right indicative of my own butt dyno. Gonna redo the dyno again later next week.

 

So what where the real numbers... But Dyno means nothing, unless it is backed up on real rollers...

 

Houston we have a problem

what you need is that stage 4 tune and quick

 

Thinking it through more, your HP numbers were probably lower than before since the torque targets would have been hit at a much lower PSI all things being equal with the Stage 2 tune. Also be sure to do an ECU clear and reset, then go do some crazy hard pulls.

 

Nothing to share at this moment as far as figures. Makes no sense in releasing that data yet.

 

Frustrating, did you do a stock ecu pull after the stg 2 and get the air fuel ratio? I know my butt dyno felt I had more as well when I did mine..... might be pleasantly surprised by what Battle and DNA can do with the AFR

 

Nice car and a hella setup

 

Bah, no such thing as bad data. If you are truly pushing the envelop then there will be set backs and hiccups. If stage 4+ was easy (and cheap) there would be more people doing it.

Oh, have you tried closing the waste gate...

 

Haven't bothered even though Arric said to do it, Battle and DNA both told me it wasn't necessary.

 

I'll get to Stage 4, we'll see what else I come up with soon.

 

Great looking R56!!!
Do you get CEL codes with the AK exhaust?
What profile tires were u running on the first setup?
With the AP, can u get more maps or are you limited to what is out there?
Rock on!!

 

I don't have an AP....

It's a custom Battle/DNA tune. The AP is old tech...

First setup...215/35/18

If you run any aftermarket downpipe you will throw a CEL. It can be coded to not show up with Battle/DNA.

 

Thank you so much for documenting this, it is very inspiring. For those of us who love our Minis but don't really know how or where to start building them, this is pure gold. Even though mine is an r53, I read this thread from the beginning and enjoyed the whole thing, can't wait for the next installment!

 

This is all very interesting, thanks for sharing so much info on your journey.

We are fitting a similar turbo to my car here in Scotland. We have a good intercooler setup and catless downpipe already. It will then receive some ECU/Map modifications once it is installed.

I'm interested in reading up about all the ECU challenges everyone is having. Having come from the older fashioned cars like Evo 6, E46 and E92 M3 I wasn't aware that the car would try and set its own torque curve? I thought I would be paying for a map that set the boost curve and the base ignition map on full throttle. Is that not the case?

I also never expected to try and run a bigger turbo with more efficient flow on a map that wasn't designed for it (like you are currently, whilst you await your DNA stage 4 map if i understand correctly). I felt that would put the car at risk of det as had a map that believed x Psi manifold pressure = y flow of air, however currently its Y+ due to a bigger freer flowing turbo. Sounds risky from the point of view of all other cars I have been involved with tuning in the past.

Maybe modern tech doesn't work that way! :-)

I'm intrigued to see your figures and thanks for all the sharing. Good luck :-)

I'll share whatever we have managed too. I already posted up pics of my intercooler setup which I thought people like yourself would be interested in :-)

Regards,
Steven_RW

 

Don't get down in the dump about your Dyno pull
If it was easy everyone would be doing it
She is going to be a beast when you get all the bugs worked out. It's NOT an easy task

 

I agree, a dyno pull based on a map for another turbo size can't be demonstrative of the total potential outcome.

I wonder if Battletune are available in the UK as I will be running the basically same turbo so maybe their base map (of stage 4 to keep up with the lingo) would be a good start for me.

Good luck :-)

Regards,
Steven_RW

 

The Battle tune is actually done by DNA tuning. Battle is just the distributor for the US. DNA tuning is a UK company. You'll have more immediate access than we do here!

 

Steven, you'll have to look at their distributor list, they may have one near you. 1320 which is a popular shop in the UK had their own tune for a bit, but decided they couldn't do it and signed on as a DNA distributor as well.

 

Great - I also spoke to Evolve who were also happy to do some sort of remote 'updates to the map based on requests from your tuner'.

So I have a couple of options.

Did you get given a maximum figure for your turbos flow capacity and therefore theoretical maximum BHP? I am really interested to see what limit stops me hitting 300 bhp (a number I have set only because I was asked what I would like).

Evolve put up a graph of 290bhp at one point on not that heavily a modified car.

I've heard people say the rods can bend and the rod bolts can stretch, so maybe I wont ask for maximum mid range and instead set a limit of lbs ft and just hold that for as long as possible up through the rev range. All good fun and great to share ideas.

Best of luck and bet you can't wait for a better tune to arrive to use the new hardware you have :-)

Regards,
Steven_RW

 

Thank you too!

Buddy of mine just let me know that the NAM e-mail newsletter had me on there with the build. Didn't even know that! Thanks to all that have checked in to see the progression!

 

1320 MINI are now a licensed supplier for the DNA Tuning maps/options. They have their own test car that they are working with DNA Tuning testing out turbo and cam options and more in the future.

 

Yup! I talked to John about that. I read your thread over on MT about 1320 and every time I saw DNA hashtagged to their builds (GP2) I figured that was the case.

 

Yeah its a nice setup to have as 1320 can start to develop parts and work out what can be done and can't and then we can all benefit from their testing