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R50/53 Racing Turtel

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Racing Turtel

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I currently DD a 2011 R56 MCS with an N18 100% Stock and recently purchase a 2003 R53 to use as a track car with 89k on the engine and 163k on the body. My track car before was 2014 Genesis Coupe 2.0 R-Spec making 308whp and 327wtq, had 3" Turbo back exhaust (no Cats), AEM WMI, SRI, IC Pipe, Synapses DV and a Custom tune. Great Track car, but unfortunately it got totaled by insurance company. So i got the R53 to replace it. I'm a DIY type of guy and love working on my car. Not scared to mod anything if need be, but like to know the total cost before i get into a project.

Yin and yang

R56 Light/R53 Darkness

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This R53 Came with the following.
---Engine---
Cometic Headgasket
Ported Head
Bigger Exhaust Valve 2mm
Schrick Camshalf
Alta Intake
Alta Catback Exhaust
Alta Supercharger Pulley 17%
Alta lightened Crank Pulley 2%
Megan Racing Headers (wrapped).

---Suspension---
01. 15" OZ Racing Crono HT
02. BC Coilover
03. Poly Bushings everywhere
04. Megan rear lower control arm, also have top rear control arm need to put them in.
05. Tower defender
06. Rear Strut Tower Bar
07. New Brake pads (unknown brand F&R)
08. CUT FRONT SWAY BAR
09. Torque Solutions lower Engine mount (Dog bone)

So after lots of reading here and other places I finally made a list of parts, Some i already ordered and some i will be ordering soon. Here is he list

Ready to get install

Suspension
- K-Brace
- WMW Strut Tower Brace
- Rear H-Sport Competition Sway bar
- Cabrio Cross Brace
- Super Pro F&R Adjustable Endlinks
- Super Pro Front Sway bar Bushings
- Super Pro Trasmission mount bushing
- Super Pro Passenger side top bushings
- Subframe
- Passenger side axle
- Rear Crossmember
- R&L Trailing arm
- R&L Trailing arm Bracket
- R&L Inner/Outer Ball joint
- R&L Front Control Arms
- R&L Inner/Outer Tie Rod


Innovate MS PSB-1 AFR/Boost Gauge/Shifter light
Innovate 3913 Temp/Pressure Oil Gauge
Craven Oil Pressure adapter
AMS remote oil pressure sender
Auto Meter 2267 Oil Temp Oil plug adapter
IJDMTOY LED License Plate Lamp
Small Antenna
BMW Aux Cable

Some pics of the Parts
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:31 PM
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Work Has started
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:39 PM
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Here is what i found after taking off subframe. I already new there was a leak wasn't sure where it was coming from, but after cleaning it turns out to be the oil housing. Just doing inspection

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Hearder is being replace due to a leaking Flex pipe
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All the grease is from the axle
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:48 PM
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Transplant started

Need
- Steering rack
- Dog bone
- PS Tank hoses and lines
- Headlight leveling sensor (or at least that is what i think it is)
- Remove the Tie rods inner and outer
- Bolts from Control arm Brackets

Had so much trouble getting the rack off due to the star socket, which i didn't have. Also had so much trouble getting the Tie rod ends to come off since it was all rusted and stuck together, was trying to save at least one Bellows boot.

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Old 04-26-2016, 10:31 PM
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The Turtle reminds me of mini_aaron's R56 racing build. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-pacific.html Looks like a very fun project though. Looking forward to watching it progress.
 
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Exhaust

Exhaust is all Wrapped up and wide band bung welded on. Install was pretty easy after you get the bolts to line up with the Gasket and the holes on the head. My God i think i spend about 30 mins on that alone and about 10 mins on the rest. I got all new bolts because i thought the old one's would be all rusted, but to my surprise they came out very easy and are in really good condition. I'm going to thru them in the tumbler to get them nice and clean.


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Out with the old and in with the new
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:27 PM
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OK so after fighting with everything, i was able to get the rack off, but a friend called and said they had one available, so i just got a new to me-used one. It was in pretty good condition tie rod inner and outer was in great condition. Bushing was also good. So i returned the new inner/outer R&L tie rods back. Cleaned everything and transplant started.

New Control arms/Control Arm Brackets with Powerflex Bushings which was pressed in the wrong way. A quick trip to my buddies shop to un-press and re-press in the right way. New Inner/outer ball joint.

While putting in the Driver side outer ball join i crossed thread the Spindle, so i ordered one will be replacing when i get it. Also got a Tap and Die set since it like the first 2-3 threads, but just cant get the bolt to pass that.

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OLD Sub-Frame Stripped
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New to me - Used sub-frame
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Cleaned and ready for all it accessories
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I HAVE A BUNCH OF THIS LEFT. 21 to be exact LOL. I could only find 25pks M10x1.5x50 Grade 10.9 like the stock

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Super Pro Bushings Front Sway bar Old one was cut Old VS New
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NEED TO GET THIS FOR THE ABS SENSOR BUT NOT WILLING TO PAY $6 FOR SHIPPING WHEN THEY COST $1. WILL TRY A LOCAL DEALER
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ALL BOLTED UP AGAIN

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Tap and die set Metric
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Old 04-28-2016, 06:22 PM
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Axle

Axle was replace along with the Oil Filter housing Gasket.

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All the Grease from the Axle all over the place as well as Oil from the Housing.

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Painted but didnt have enough time to dry so in it went lol.
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Oil Cooler nice and clean
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:57 PM
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R50/53 Upgrades

Great pix HaveATank. Thanks for sharing and look forward to seeing more. These kinds of posts help everyone, whether they want to make a few performance and cosmetic upgrades or opt for major autocross and Track Day tuning.
 
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I'm thinking of getting a Oil Temp/Pressure gauge. Found where to get pressure reading from, but haven't found where to get oil temperature from. I mean i guess i can use an adapter on the adapter lol. Where do people get the temp on this car. Also need a way to get my oil accumulator installed. It easy on an engine with a screw on filter.

Saw this oil Cooler (Link bellow), but i would more then anything be interested in getting the plate and i prefer Water cooling better then air cooling, so this plate would need to also adapt back to the coolant, but the options seem to be very limited and the solutions I have found are dumb expensive (not made for this car, but seem to be easily adaptable, if i can find where to tap into after oil).

A baffled oil plan not hard to do either, but a dry sump would be optimal but not willing to spend $3k on this (RMW) has one.

http://www.madnessmotorworks.com/mad...ne-oil-cooler/
 
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ATI Damper and K-Brace

So Yesterday has been the best day. didn't want to get in too deep since the skys still look like it could rain any moment. So i installed the the K-Brace and the ATI Damper.

K-Brace installed
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It was very easy to install the Damper. I thought it would be a lot harder, since last time i did something like this i did it all manual, but Guess when you have the right tools everything gets easy.

This was my friend and it could be yours if you are doing something this.

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OK so replaced the 2% pulley With the ATI Damper/Front main seal/Crank Bolt/Belt. Nothing was wrong with the seal, but since i was already there it just made sense. same thing as the bolt. The belt really need to get replace picture below.

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Here is the job complete.

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So i had ordered a replacement radiator support because the one that is on the car currently has the bottom of it missing. So i made a mistake and ordered a non S rad support. I think i can make it work since it looks like it the same thing just the snorkel for the NA VS the SC is in the wrong place. If any trimming is needed, i can do that as well. The question i have, is there anything else that is different. Do the NA/SC both use the same size Rad/fan ect.

I already got a quote to send it back and it like haft the price $65 to send it back.

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Awesome thread!
 
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Radiator and Rad Support/Crank Position Sensor O-ring/coolant over flow tank

Today was a great day weather was Sunny with Zero chance of rain.

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Started the day by replacing the Left/Driver Side wheel Spindle i had damaged trying to install the outer ball joint. Installed the Aluminum Radiator/Coolant Reservoir Tank and The Radiator support. While i was doing this i replaced the Crank sensor O-ring with a new one.

This is the only picture i took.
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Installed Coolant OverFlow Tank. Forgot to take a picture of the tank installed.

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Here is the Aluminum Radiator, Don't see a problem putting the bumper back on since it about the same thickness as the stock Core at least at the ends.

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Rad Support or lack of lol.

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Mini Cooper Support

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Mini Cooper S Support Nothing is different but the snorkel being at the wrong place.

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Here is the old Vs New

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R56 JCW BBk Ready for installation. SS lines/Front Rotors/Front Brake Pads/Ti Shims come in tomorrow.

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Great thread, but bad for my wallet... it makes me want to mod my MINI even more.

Have you upgraded the pistons in the calipers? I've read the JCW Brembos have plastic/composite pistons that tend to melt under heavy track use.
 
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this thread is crazy good. Subscribed for more... huge thanks for the info and entertainment.
 
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Nice job. Talk about a transformation!
 
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So yesterday I went out and took off the sub-frame and Trailing arms out. Turned our the Wheel Hubs was crazy with rust. I order placed and order for two of them. While in the process of doing that Fedex came with goodies, Since i was having trouble with some of the bolts. I just blasted it with PB and went to open and check out what i got. Turns out i got my Front Rotors and Front Pads. I decided to shift attention to the brakes. and let the rear get more penetration lol.

Here are the pictures

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Shipment came in

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So i tried again in the rear and still no go. I Blasted again and went to work on the suspension. So the pillow ball mount studs needed some love so love it got. Also need to take out some negative camber because I will not be able to put the endlinks since they rub with the frame. Only notice after putting everything back together and went to install Endlinks. So maybe tomorrow.

Right Side (Passenger side) Had to install 3 new studs
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Left Side (driver side) Had to install One new stud.
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So finally worked my way back to the rear and full of surprises this car lol. Here is what i found. I was able to salvage the bolt. a Nice evpo rust and all the bolts came back to life.

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Installed Sub-frame Cross member and goodies.

Today cleaned as much rust as i could off the bolts. Also was able to salvage all the bolts off the sub frame and wheel bearings. Also cleaned all the threads on the bolts and installed the cross member/rear sub-frame. I wanted to do more, but the weather kept threatening to open up and that kept me from going all in.

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New used Rear Subframe

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Old Trailing arms with no rusted yo bearings. was able to take it off with Fire and impact. Fire is your best friend when it comes to rust.

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Everything assemble before it gets put in.

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Rear Subframe all in. Before and After

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Got the final goodies from Way Motor Works.

New R56 Parking brake cables

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Also TI Shims came in today

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This thread is like eye candy, makes me want to mod more and do some things to my R52 , like the superpro bushing upgrade.

I have the Gen 2 JCW 4 pots BBK on my Gen 1 R52 also. big improvement. I would also like toe paint the trailing arms and front arms as they are a bit rusted from 263K miles.
 
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This thread is like eye candy, makes me want to mod more and do some things to my R52 , like the superpro bushing upgrade.

I have the Gen 2 JCW 4 pots BBK on my Gen 1 R52 also. big improvement. I would also like toe paint the trailing arms and front arms as they are a bit rusted from 263K miles.
I ran into two problem today while installing the JCW rear SS lines. They rub with the trailing arms. I'm going to take a grinder tomorrow and make little channel for it. Camera ran out of battery and i was unable to take picture of it. Not a deal breaker just an un-plan modification. In the front i had to make the brake line bracket alittle bigger to fit the SS line so it connects to the hard line.

Also the salvage arms i got don't have the welded nut for the lower control arm and it came with this clip, but i only have one.

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I was just chatting with customer service at ECS. They said they will get back to me. I can take it to get a nut welded, but trying to keep my cost down lol. Going to see how much you guy sell this for and depending on the price i will pick lol.

Other problem that i think i will have is the endlinks feel like they are too close to Axles on both sides. When you turn the wheel all the way L or R it rubs just a little, Don't know if the geometry will change once the car is actually on the ground. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

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Ill update with everything i did today.
 
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This looks awesome!!!
Where do you guys find the time!!!!
 
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Now this is a DIY thread...

On your front sway bar end link, can you thread the adjuster tube further up on the threaded end pieces and maybe get it to clear that way?

BTW - What size front sway bar did you put in? Or is that the stock on?

Nice job.
 
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Now this is a DIY thread...

On your front sway bar end link, can you thread the adjuster tube further up on the threaded end pieces and maybe get it to clear that way?

BTW - What size front sway bar did you put in? Or is that the stock on?

Nice job.
I will try. I can't believe I'm the first person with this dilemma/problem. I tried so many combinations lol. Spend about 1.5hr just testing different combos, but every time i turn my wheel full lock it rubbed or almost rubbed (like 3-4mm of clearance). I mean i haven't done a search to see if anyone else had a similar situation and how it was fixed, but like i said i can't be the first with this problem. I looked at other manufactures adjustable endlink and they all seem like, i would run into the same problem since the body is so big. This ELs will extend to 12" based on the manufactures specs and it seems like every other EL would be the same. I'm crossing my fingers that it will be different once is on the floor or unless someone comes with a solution.

Regarding the front Sway bar. Everything i have read about the fronts seems to point to it being good enough even for track use.
 

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