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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:15 AM
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Dry Ice???

Does it work. I have some very minor hail dents from a recent hail storm. I repeat THESE ARE VERY MILD DENTS. Most people would probably not notice them. You have to let the light hit them just right.

I am debating on whether or not I would even bother to get them fixed. Again you can barely even see them when you are looking for them.

Is the dry ice worth a try?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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please one at a time....
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Forgive my ignorance but just what does dry ice do for dents?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by asodestrom
Forgive my ignorance but just what does dry ice do for dents?
I've never heard of this either, but I'm guessing the theory is that when metal gets cold it contracts, and that when dry ice is applied to the dent, the metal around it gets cold enough that it contracts enough to pop the dent out...

That's just a swag though...
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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That is an affirmative. Never tried it myself, but that is the basic premice. I have a coworker that swears to it based on his personal experience.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Do tell. I'd like to know, just in case I'm ever in Texas and can't find a cover! Texas storms can be brutal, take you by surprise and then wham, wham, wham, wham,wham,wham! Before you know it you've been hailed!

So any of you know what the dry ice does? It's obvious that those of us from California aren't going to be of any help.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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I've actually used the dry ice technique! I'd say it sorta works. Depends on the ding(s). At best, it didn't seem to make anything worse or damage the paint and some of the dings became less noticable. Some didn't change at all. Don't remember if any went away completely, but then, I'm not a trained professional. There weren't hail dings, they were door dings mostly. Process might work better on bonnet and roof panels, maybe?

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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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The dents to which I am referring, are on the roof only and are very subtle soft dents (barely noticeable). Sounds like the dry ice may at least be worth a try.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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I had a friend who used it with good results (I never saw it). Dry ice is wicked cheap. Try it.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Can't you just go to Minnesota for a week in January
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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I have heard that in some cases cold weather can diminish minor dents...but I don't want to wait for winter.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by asodestrom
Can't you just go to Minnesota for a week in January
Good one asodestrom!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Well if it does not work ,put the dry ice in a container of water that fits under
your MINI and take funky pics ,with fog rolling out from under the MINI
Just get everything set,cause it won,t last long
You should always wear gloves when ever you handle dry icenasty burns
Oh and if you know what your doing,dry ice makes great rockets.
Don,t ask me how I don't carry that much insurance
 

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Find a friend that with a "beater" car that you can try it out first on. They won't care if it doesn't work or damages the paint.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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The use of Dry-Ice to remove dents from a car's sheetmetal is mostly a wives tale. I tried it once in another car I used to have and it didn't work at all. Sheetmetal does not easily "re-shape" with sudden and drastic changes in temperature. Dry Ice is a bit expensive and dangerous to handle as its core temperature is typically -141F. This stuff can burn and toast your skin with the slight touch, so be careful when handling it!!! Its VERY, VERY, VERY COLD!!. Also when handling Dry Ice you need to do so in a well ventilated area.

My advice....don't waste your time with it. If you care about your car and wanna do it right, file a claim with your insurance company and have a professional Paintless Dent Repair/Removal facility do the job.

Dent Wizard is the best known company but also check for other local dent removal places that can do this type of job. Hail damage to the roof always involves removing the headliner and this is why it might get expensive and may have to claim it under the insurance.

Here is their website:


www.dentwizard.com


Take it from there and good luck.
 

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooper4us
Sheetmetal does not easily "re-shape" with sudden and drastic changes in temperature.
All of us black roof owners who live in hot climates know about the infamous roof dimples that heat brings out. If heat can distort sheet metal, why can't cold do the same thing? I suppose temporary is the operative here
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Everbody with dents go visit Lot 15 in the wild north.....mid -February......I bet you even get to sleep with his navigator.......
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketrocketowner
Everbody with dents go visit Lot 15 in the wild north.....mid -February......I bet you even get to sleep with his navigator.......
Well that's why we don't fix hail dents,just wait for that first real cold one,,,,,
pop out go the dents
 
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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if anyone would like to learn about PDR paintless dent repair check out

www.doording.com
PDR is what i do for a living and have been doing it since '96.
The dry ice method was started in the early 80's when dent repair was first start'n they would only fix cars under tent's or in a closed area so no one could see what we were doing. They would put dry ice out and let customers "think" that is what we were doing.!!LOL
My website is
www.gotdings.com
 
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dingos
if anyone would like to learn about PDR paintless dent repair check out

www.doording.com
PDR is what i do for a living and have been doing it since '96.
The dry ice method was started in the early 80's when dent repair was first start'n they would only fix cars under tent's or in a closed area so no one could see what we were doing. They would put dry ice out and let customers "think" that is what we were doing.!!LOL
My website is
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I would definitely bring my car to you if it became necessary, but I live in NJ. I assume there are non paint dent repairs services here. When I picked up my new 2005 MC last month it had two small dimple dents on the passenger side door. The dealership had their "dent man" fix it and it looks great. But....I just read at your site that some dent repair technicians drill a hole in your door. I had no idea and I sure hope my car didn't have a hole drilled into it. The dents were just below the door handle...where might I find the holes if they were drilled? BTW, your site is great. :smile:
 
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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If you try liquid nitrogen maybe the whole car will get smaller. Would look like a smart car.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rennie
I would definitely bring my car to you if it became necessary, but I live in NJ. I assume there are non paint dent repairs services here. When I picked up my new 2005 MC last month it had two small dimple dents on the passenger side door. The dealership had their "dent man" fix it and it looks great. But....I just read at your site that some dent repair technicians drill a hole in your door. I had no idea and I sure hope my car didn't have a hole drilled into it. The dents were just below the door handle...where might I find the holes if they were drilled? BTW, your site is great. :smile:
I would think were the dents were
 
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by asodestrom
Can't you just go to Minnesota for a week in January
Go visit Lot15 in Canada, you'll be warm inside while the MINI is getting repared outside. I think he hit -40 below this year.
 
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