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Old Dec 20, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Enabling rear fog lights

After having purchased the version of the light switch for my car that included the rear fog switch, I can confirm the following coding is required to make them work, which by the way is a little different to that in the cheat sheet. Note also the F56 does not have a REM module so only the BDC needs to be coded.




1) I added option 5AA rear fogs to the VO


(not sure this is really necessary but I did it anyway for correctness)




2) 3068, NSL_Verbaut = Verbaut


(This enables the BDC to sense the switch, if you just code this and try the lights, it just activates the symbol on the instrument cluster but does nothing else)




3)


3064 Mapping_Nebelschlussl_L_output = nsl_l
3064 Mapping_Nebelschlussl_L_Function = nebelschlusslicht
3064 Mapping_Nebelschlussl_R_output = nsl_l
3064 Mapping_Nebelschlussl_R_Function = nebelschlusslicht




(note this differs from the cheat sheet which lists it under 3063 which is incorrect) These options enable the correct outputs on the BDC to activate the lights. You could choose to have only one light on if you wished






After doing all the above, I have fully working rear fogs, confirming that both the wiring is already in place, and BMW rape your wallet for a $100 option that only needs probably an extra $1 in components in the switch module. They obviously have a very savvy marketing department who have figured out perceived value of such options like this that cost them next to nothing


BTW, someone was asking in another thread about the light switch connector. It is three wires no matter what version/options you have. Power, ground, CANBUS. This is typical of multiplexed wiring used by BMW.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2014 | 09:36 PM
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Wow, nice! Where did you buy the switch?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hp79
Wow, nice! Where did you buy the switch?
Should be able to get it through any dealer
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 05:01 AM
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Here are the different variations of switch assemblies.

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...83&hg=61&fg=35

Sewell has them listed for $148
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 07:24 AM
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Hey,

I found the setting of the activation speed of turning light.
Normally, when I press blinkers, the cornering light stay on at 100% until 40 km / h.
Now, we can adjust own value.

The fonctions are : C_CLC_BLINK_V0 and C_CLC_BLINK_V1 in CAF [BDC_01]
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Just a heads up... I was looking to purchase the light control module as well.. ECS tuning has the best price I was able to find online. ~$120'ish
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CooperB
Just a heads up... I was looking to purchase the light control module as well.. ECS tuning has the best price I was able to find online. ~$120'ish
What do you need that ?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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If the vehicle did not have the $100 option for rear fog lights you have to buy/replace the light control module and code the car in order to make them work.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CooperB
If the vehicle did not have the $100 option for rear fog lights you have to buy/replace the light control module and code the car in order to make them work.
Ok.
In France, all cars have rear fog light.
We have some differences between country !
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CooperB
If the vehicle did not have the $100 option for rear fog lights you have to buy/replace the light control module and code the car in order to make them work.
By module, you mean the headlamp switch assembly?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkBlue15MCS
By module, you mean the headlamp switch assembly?
That's what he means. One of the links above shows about 9 variations of switches. The module includes the rotary switch for the headlights and the push buttons for the fog lights.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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What module? I thought spacecadet mentioned a $1 switch is all we needed. I was expecting a $10 in parts + coding to activate the rear fog light.

edit: Oh.. now I get it. So we have to replace the whole switch assembly to get the fog light switch? That sucks.

Originally Posted by guil0205
Hey,

I found the setting of the activation speed of turning light.
Normally, when I press blinkers, the cornering light stay on at 100% until 40 km / h.
Now, we can adjust own value.

The fonctions are : C_CLC_BLINK_V0 and C_CLC_BLINK_V1 in CAF [BDC_01]
What do you mean by activation speed of turning light?
 

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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkBlue15MCS
By module, you mean the headlamp switch assembly?
Originally Posted by Crimguy
That's what he means. One of the links above shows about 9 variations of switches. The module includes the rotary switch for the headlights and the push buttons for the fog lights.
Correct, that is was I was referring to.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hp79
What module? I thought spacecadet mentioned a $1 switch is all we needed. I was expecting a $10 in parts + coding to activate the rear fog light

What do you mean by activation speed of turning light?
I believe he is referring to the cornering lights (if you have the option installed). They are only available/work if the car is moving less than 25 MPH.

And to answer your other question re: rear fogs, there is a thread here on NAM that the $10 fix many use on BMW vehicles to activate the rear fog's does not work on the F56 -- you have to replace the entire switch assembly and code the car to activate.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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Okay. What a bummer.

Anyone know if the Voice Recognition button can be used for something else? I don't think mine does anything because I didn't upgrade the display. I want "recirculate air" on the steering wheel but probably not possible.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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So has anyone figured out how to turn on sat radio? I know we'd still need a subscription, but yearly subscription is a lot less than $300 (sat radio fee with first year included).
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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aafflyer I have been trying to figure this out myself. Something the dealer should have done with us upon delivery. I think I have figured it out after watching this youtube video but can't confirm as I am at work and the MINI is at home.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aafflyer
so has anyone figured out how to turn on sat radio? I know we'd still need a subscription, but yearly subscription is a lot less than $300 (sat radio fee with first year included).
+1
 
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aafflyer
So has anyone figured out how to turn on sat radio? I know we'd still need a subscription, but yearly subscription is a lot less than $300 (sat radio fee with first year included).
I think there is addition hardware needed for sat radio IF it was not ordered with the car.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkBlue15MCS
I think there is addition hardware needed for sat radio IF it was not ordered with the car.
My dealer told me the part is around 400.00 plus 300.00 for install/programming. Does anybody know if the programing part can be done using the method in this thread?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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I don't know the answer to your question but based on previous cars I've owned I would look into doing the purchase and install yourself IF the car is prewired for satellite radio. Antenna is different on most cars, but IIRC both my Audi and BMW were ready to go - just needed the tuner box.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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If your car has "satellite radio prep" as an option then there is NO additional hardware required.

What you need is simply what is called an FSC code. Similar mechanism to that used by BMW for NAV map updates.

The only way I know for Sirius is to get this from BMW themselves as it is tied to the VIN.

However, if you do have E-sys, then you can code the car yourself, If you can persuade a dealer to sell you an FSC code only. I can imagine most dealers would be reluctant, as this is "money for nothing" territory

The only work they have to do is to log onto BMW's web portal and order this code. The wholesale price is much lower than the $375 retail price

Again, it is another wallet raping exercise by BMW as all they are charging you for is an activation key in effect for something your car already has.

There are companies out there offering such codes, but they will still have to get it "wholesale" for your VIN from a friendly contact in a dealer somewhere.

Personally having listened to Sirius over the year in various rental cars I'm not sure its worth it.

In any case, if you have a friendly dealer maybe you would be able to negotiate a discount for the code.

Here are the instructions how to code your car with e-sys, taken from another BMW forum so I cant confirm if it works or not.........




When you got your SAT Radio FSC Code, you should have received 3 files:

e.g. xxxxxxx_006F0001.xml
e.g. xxxxxxx_006F0001.der (FSC Code Certificate)
e.g. xxxxxxx_006F0001.fsc (FSC Code)

E-Sys => Options => Settings => FSC Tab => Certificate Field:

Load FSC Code Certificate (e.g. xxxxxxx_006F0001.der)

E-Sys => Comfort Mode => FSC => FSC Field:

Load FSC Code (e.g. xxxxxxx_006F0001.fsc. The FSC Code file must first be Base 64 Decoded or else E-Sys can not read it. (Use B64Dec for Decoding - http://4mhz.de/b64dec.html).

FA Field: Select "Read FA" to use cars current VO.

Parameter Fields: (Example for Sat Radio FSC Code and CIC):

Diagnostic Address (hex) = 63 (99 in Decimal for HU_CIC; I think the same for HU_NBT)
Application Number (dec) = 111 (6F in Hexidecimal - In FSC File Name, e.g xxxxxxx_006F0001.fsc)
Base Variant = HU_CIC (CIC module name, e.g. HU_CIC, HU_NBT, etc.)
Upgrade Index = 1 (In FSC File Name, e.g xxxxxxx_006F0001.fsc))

Select "Upgrade FSC" to Import and Activate FSC Code.

Select "Check FSC Status", and you should see something like:

----------
AppID 111
UpgradeIndex 1
SWTType SWTclassic full
FSCStatus accepted
FSCCertStatus accepted
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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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From what I hear. Coding will be a thing of the past with e-sys. If your car has been updated in the last week or so. Forget about coding it. BMW has removed the identifiers in the cafd files and when module is read it's basically blank folders. Satellite activation however can still work as I just updated a car that can't be coded any longer with e-sys but satellite was fine to activate it.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 01:34 AM
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I look for kept the front central display in colour position (normal day display) when the night comes, instead of switch automatically in Amber colour.
Do you have an idea?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ep31
I look for kept the front central display in colour position (normal day display) when the night comes, instead of switch automatically in Amber colour. Do you have an idea?
I've tried a couple of things. It doesn't work.
 
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