well put as usual. ill bring some beer for us spectators.


p.s. maybe popcorn too.

 

Its a single annular NOS nozzle in the IC to TB horn, the fuel line is a -4 straight off the end of the fuel rail obviously with the valve removed.

We then just jetted it to suit the fuel pressure, simple as that.

Well it has to be simple for me to figure it out

 

Can we please get away from the PC diversion of an otherwise very informative thread?

Danke.

 

RIGHT ON!

And Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Wilt.

 

Just to chime in on a few points....

1) The site, admins, etc. have no problem with free speech. In fact I'd like to see more of it. That said free speech entails a responsibility to knowing who your audience is and being considerate of them. Given the site is MINI related I personally would prefer not to have political or religious discussions on the site. It doesn't benefit the intent of the site which is MINI-related information.

2) Jan's banning - this was a couple of years ago, was not product related, and purely based on his actions toward others on the site. He will be at the Dragon as a vendor and I have heard that he would like to open a discussion about getting RMW onto the site in some manner. It is currently up to him as to whether this initiative is taken.

Mark

 

forgot what I wanted to say .

 

Gee, I have black rims so if you and a FEW of your buddies complain to NAM, NAM will remove my pics? maybe my posts? maybe I will be asked to leave ?

It has been pointed out - that one joins this community freely and can leave freely. Memebers can opt not to particpate in a thread. They can "ignore" certain members if they like.

Is NAM a Mini Cooper and Anti-Jesus Christ pictures community ? I thought we were just a Mini Cooper community made up of a global group of people with diverse backgrounds that only need to agree on one thing - that being Mini Cooper topics. Since when have we cease being tolerant of one another?

 

That's why I love NJ! I also think Don does a good job, but that's just from experience.

I love seeing this unfold and I hate it when people are told not to post in others' threads, as if they own a section of the internet. The fact that Don gets a rise out of you all says something. Nothing to prove? Then why even address the comments?

Anyhoozle, by all visible accounts on this site, the head sold by Jan is excellent.

mb

 

Their actions do not reflect this statement.

I couldn't agree more.

 

I guess I'll just back to doing what I do best....Driving the snot out of this fast little devil.

 

I understand the OT portion, but there was no discussion of the badges, they were used as signatures. The 1-2 people it bothered could have just ignored our posts, or dealt with it. The point was that you can't draw the line at people being bothered by the mentioning of Jesus. What about other things that bother people? I agree, this has opened a pandora's box.

 

I'm certainly not Anti- Jesus Christ, i'm Catholic, and have been my whole life. I don't see what this has to do with the badges that were made, they were far from Anti-Jesus Christ.

Really what it comes down to is a few people found it offensive and site admin caved in under the pressure and asked that it be removed. As I said, if someone had mentioned that it bothered them, and asked politely that it be removed, I would have done it in an instant. The fact that admins had to REQUIRE that it be removed is what bothers me.

I stand by what I said, where do you draw the line. Perhaps the black wheels example was a bit overdramatic, you get the point though. You can't just censor everything that bothers a few people .

 

Moderators & folks who were offended need to have their eyes checked... Surely they know the Jesus when they see him... The Jesus "had skin in like burnt bronze and hair like lamb's wool".

You guys got upset about the wrong Jesus! The guy who posed for the head logo.... completely different dude!

In fact, I have it on good authority that Tommy Chong was the Jesus head model!

WTF?! IT WAS AN ARTISTS CONCEPTION OF JESUS! NOT HIS FREAKIN PICTURE!

Helluva standard being set here re: what's political, religious, and or offensive/disrespectful...

a) Image/depiction: Someone draws a stick figure and calls it Jesus. The stick figure's gotta go.

b) Symbol: Factions of the membership conspire to string together 3 alpha-numeric characters to symbolize Jesus - gotta go

Where's the shakes head in disbelief emoticon?:impatient

 

Right here

 

I dunno... label just says "NO". I want something like or :impatient in combination with (picky I am!)

 

LMAO!!

 

And I have a new favorite NAM member . Funny stuff.

Eventually when we get back to the point, I have a question for the Jesus head people. If the cars are seeing 230s with no tuning, what can we expect after tuning? Is there a Jesus head car out of the 6 or so out there that has the head and is tuned at the same time? If so, is there an available graph for that one? Thanks.

mb

 

To me there was nothing "anti" about it but those seeking to remove it were clearly "anti" JC association.

My point exactly. In advertantly, NAM has a taken a position. Now had the entire community opined and as a community (majority) decided that it was not appropriate I would have supported its removal.

The line is a tough one for Admin and I am appreciative of their constant efforts to provide us the very best Mini community, they just got it wrong this time.

PS - going forward when discussing this head please pronounce JESUS (HAY-zeus) - latin style.

 

That's the way I've been calling it...Heysoos

 

How about we call it the Devil head... Think anyone will be offended by that!?

It matches better with the name of the builder anyway!

El Diablito!

Or, how about the Holy $H|T head.

Can someone make an avatar of a pile of $H|T with a halo over it?

 

At this point I'm not aware of anyone running any tuning with the El D head. We're waiting for Jan to get the software to do an emulation tune on the dyno in realtime. Flash tuning works, but is time consuming and expensive. He wants to run the car up on the dyno and tune it in real time while it's pulling on the dyno, not tune, flash, dyno, tune, flash, dyno, tune, flash, dyno, tune, flash, dyno. It can take hours to get a flash tune right, Realtime tuning takes only 20-30 minutes .

For those curious about numbers after tune, I'd say expect the cars to be north of 240 with a tune (Depending on where they were before the tune). Jan says expecting 250 whp wouldn't be far fetched .

I believe Jan is organizing a Dyno day in the coming weeks, I know i'll be going. Feel free to stop by and see the dyno results for yourself. If we end up going to Autowave, the facility is at sea level, and almost always at or near SAE, so there are no corrections whatsoever. The dyno shows actual numbers recorded. None of this 20% correction factor BS to skew results.

I don't know of any actual date to expect tunes, Jan would be the person to ask about that, I know that once it's available i'll be getting one .

 

I haven't followed this thread in a quite a while, thankfully, at least considering the most recent discussion... I think it was here where I inquired fairly early-on about A/F ratios, and was informed that they are darn near ideal. That said, if indeed true, a tune would seem not to have much upside. But with 230 whp, I have a feeling that many would be more than pleased...

 

i can't wait til one of them jesus headed car get on ldg's dyno and shut them nay-sayers next week...

 

There's more to a tune than AF :-). AF just shows how safely you're making power, yes a really rich AF does present some upside in power, but much of the power in a tune comes from timing and redline changes. When my car is fully tuned I expect it to run north of 8500 RPM's. My valvetrain is rated to 10k . 230 whp is what this car should have felt like from the factory. It has power in all gears, and it's amazingly torquey around town in 3rd at 2-3k.

To all the nuts out there that thing any car with more than 200 whp is undrivable, the car is perfectly drivable. I have 215/40/R17 Kumho SPT's with the JCW Dampers and H-Sport Springs, It's pretty damn hard to break the tires loose unless i'm doing 3k RPM clutch drops, which I have no interest in doing. No issues whatsoever with drivability. The power is very linear, there's no snappy jump in power past a certain RPM, etc. And this is on the stock tune!

 

Oh I have a snap in power.

It's at 5K. We (paying customer and crazy tuner) were driving around last night with the new exhaust fully finished and we were real surprised to "feel" this extra pull at around 5K. It's crazy. Kinda like a VTEC.

All the Jesus head Mini cars are not all the same. One has a 19% pulley and I hear pulls like a monster. Another is using 400cc injectors. All of these cars will benefit from a good tune. Hopefully mine will get done next week.

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