quote=rustyboy155;1499294]I'm done posting info to this thread... new info related to the RMW head and other projects from Jan will be shared with the people I know actually care. I'm tired of dealing with all the drama in here. I don't think i've ever been on a forum with a more critical, immature group of enthusiasts. This forum is to share info, I met Jan the day I was getting my head installed, I had talked to him on the phone once before. I have nothing to do with his company, nor do I have any financial interest in him selling heads. Why anyone would accuse myself, longboard, or anyone else of having some secret pact with him I have no idea...

My interest was purely excitement, and has since turned to frustration. From the get go we've had vendors in this thread knocking the head, the dyno, everything. The fact that NAM allows vendors to stir up this much drama is completely inexcusable. It's the SAME vendor's every time. I don't see Thumper, M7, or Alta coming in here and telling us how horribly we spent our money.

If it isn't the owners club badge, it's the dyno type, the dyno results, or someone snooping around the dyno looking at dyno sheets (I've probably run my car up there 25 times with dozens of different changes to test various mods, I’m not going to post every single dyno sheet on NAM, the tests were for my own knowledge) to stir up more drama. I'm 20 years old and I feel like I’m back in High School here. The funniest part is i'm probably the youngest contributor to this thread, yet it's all the adults quarreling like school girls.

Sorry to people who were genuinely interested. Hopefully someone else has more patience than I do.

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Very well said Rusty.

When I started this thread it was because I wanted to share the excitement I had for my new found power. I never even new Jan before contacting him and making the decision to go with his head. I new from day one that it wouldn't take long before the haters showed up.

It's like a bad TV show at this point. "When Vendors attack". Why does NAM allow this. I have no idea. Why do they block any and all contact info for RMW yet allow members and Vendors to talk openly about other non-vendors. I have no idea.

I have shared and will continue to share my fun. Look at the size of this thread. Obviously people are interested. I'm not here sell products but if my enthusiasm does that then great. I think the head is great and RMW have been great to work with.

Alright, enough of the BS. More fun stuff was finished today. I finally got the W/M injection working today. I went for some hammer time in the canyon behind my house. The car feels great. I wanted to get it finished so it can be tuned with it running hopefully this week. I had so much fun driving today. The feels and sound just amazing.

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Beautiful WI setup Brian I guess I need to cough up and catch up...Very well said Rusty.

When I started this thread it was because I wanted to share the excitement I had for my new found power. I never even new Jan before contacting him and making the decision to go with his head. I new from day one that it wouldn't take long before the haters showed up.

It's like a bad TV show at this point. "When Vendors attack". Why does NAM allow this. I have no idea. Why do they block any and all contact info for RMW yet allow members and Vendors to talk openly about other non-vendors. I have no idea.

I have shared and will continue to share my fun. Look at the size of this thread. Obviously people are interested. I'm not here sell products but if my enthusiasm does that then great. I think the head is great and RMW have been great to work with.

Alright, enough of the BS. More fun stuff was finished today. I finally got the W/M injection working today. I went for some hammer time in the canyon behind my house. The car feels great. I wanted to get it finished so it can be tuned for hopefully this week. I had so much fun driving today. The feels and sound just amazing.

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The Coolingmist system is great and really easy to install and set up. Now that I have done one, I think I could install one in about an hour.

Longboard

 

Make that another. I've been away all weekend enjoying all the power on the track so was not able to chime in earlier. No issues running the engine, only went off once whe I ran out of talent about the same place the track ended. Hate when that happens.

 

Not only I did I offer a ride a few pages back but I offered up my car for you drive. I only ask the same from you.

 

That looks great.You can put us down for one. Jan, Danny, and I were talking about how cool customized plates for the head would look during my wife's install. Well done

 

 

OOPS...... sorry

I'm going with my GF and as long as she is OK, it works for me.

Bob

 

This post is not aimed at any one particular vendor but all vendors.
LDG as a business has the responsibility to the general public to do whatever is necessary to make sure that parts and services that it provides are properly developed and tested before they are sold to the end user. Overall performance and reliability over time need to be quantified so that customer expectations as well as warranty programs can be explained.
What's troubling to me is the number of pms and emails that I receive from people who have purchased various performance kits that find themselves with a poorly running or worse vehicle. In most instances the solutions are not as simple as a "tune". Would anyone out there buy a car from a major manufacturer knowing that the package was not fully developed and needed to be tweeked. VW had a recent problem with software cals on it's new Jettas where the car had a very severe stumble on acceleration. Not many people who drove the car bought the car even though the salesmen assured that a fix was on the way.
Why should this be any different here in the after market. Those that complain about verification of results by dyno or any other means are complaining about the very process that assures that the customers expectations are met. I had well over 200 hours in software development for my turbo car. During that time I was approached by would be customers eager to spend a large sum of money for one of these. Do you know of anyone out there that has one of my kits yet, besides me?
I don't care how anyone takes this, but vendors should not sell performance parts or kits that are not complete in every way including the most important element, the proper ecu tuning that will assure that the product delivers as promissed and does it reliably.

 

Thats a good point, but, some of us enjoy being involved in the process, not only with the finished product. There is more risk involved but to me in the end not only do I have a system I like but I also had a hand in R&D. It's not for all, thats why there are companies like Dinan, Hartge, Ruf and the like that offer complete turnkey projects. Maybe thats the type of image you want to project and thats fine. But please, don't knock those of us that want to be involved in reinventing the wheel, we may find a better way.

 

Agreed, but you're not a vendor. I encourage all my customers to participate in their projects. My point is that there are a lot of unsuspecting people who make decisions based on inaccurate claims and advice from unqualified sources that's all. I'm not trying to discourage the do it yourselfer at all, on the contrary, I think that it's the basis of the hobby. The point was that manufactures need to pay for the r&d not the end users.

 

That is your business philosophy, I applaud you for having one. However, some of us go in with both eyes wide open knowing full well we are part of the dev and test phase. We may seek considerations in price, access to inside information or some other vehicle that fills our needs and wants to become involved.


This is no different outside of MINIdom. It's is up to the individual to preform thier own due dilligence. Many can offer their view but in the end it the consumer that has to live with a choice they make. Thats no different in choosing a stockbroker, doctor, etc etc. You may try to educate the consumer as a vendor but there will always be people that state you are the best thing since sliced bread, lower then dirt or something inbetween.

You are correct I am not a vendor, I don't play one in real life, nor pretend to be one on NAM. I'm also not a shill for anyone. I did what I felt was my due dilligence before embarking on my project. I'm not new at this having played with modding cars for over 20 years now, always as a consumer.

In a perfect world maybe. We all pay for R&D when we buy a product. Often it's not until the item is in the consumers hands the manufacturer can see it's use in real life situations and make changes according to need. This is the risk in early adoption. It's my responsibility as a human to decide if I want to be involved in that end.

 

I thought you sold your DFIC...or is that an old picture?

 

Well said gnatster! A very common example of the customer being used as R&D is Windows!

 

coolingmist = water/meth injection not a intercooler sprayer.

 

Why make this point on this thread LDG, shouldn't you've posted this on Don's thread the other month??

I can see where you're coming from but have you tested your car in every state and every condition across the USA?? probably not.

At what point do you say a product / car has passed the test? 100,000 miles???

As for product testing all I can say is, Mini - Midland gearbox, even the big boys get it wrong

I think personally I would have started another thread telling us about yours and Don's achievments.

I could of personally told Longboard how much hp I've got more than him but all I've done is moaned at them for not getting the car back on the dyno and to the strip.

I'm personally excited by Jan achievements and even Don's and yours proving an idea I had in my head, been tested by yourselfs and worked.

Where do we go next then to prove who has the best combo? at the strip of course because when you drop that clutch in 1st the car has now got to accelerate from 3200 to the shift rpm point.

So who ever runs the quickest et and mph / weight must have the best combo on the market, so in theory that must be yours and Don's Wegner head and Sthal header, you've just got to prove it, I'm sure Jere Stahl would like to bang some gears again even if it is a fwd car

Have a good one this weekend and I look forward to all those dyno graphs you'll be posting.

 

I think we need to get the latest crop of "hot MINI's" back onto Top Gear for The Stig to put up some lap times.

 

Yes, I was just noticing the intercooler in the 3rd photo, that's all.
DFIC Sold

 

No, It's still on the car. The change is coming.

Longboard

 

Well said!! cough cough can we leave this damn thread alone? please just start another thread...

 

LongBoard, Rusty et. al. Are you guy's from So. Cal. And are you in a club? Would love to come to an event and see your cars and talk to you in person, as this thread kinda got out of hand . Also is RMW down there too? Thanks for any info .

 

BTW what kinda 0-60 times do you think your doing, without blowing up your cars . Also getting sick of these WRX's and Evo's wanting to race . Are you keeping up with these cars now??

 

Yes, SoCal. I was in a club but not any more. Great people but it just wasn't for me. I have turned into a little bit more of a gear head. I'm not the lets meet for lunch kinda guy. I would rather meet up and go for a spirited drive through some twisters.

Yes, RMW is here in SoCal. RMW, myself and a few other Mini guys have been meeting on Saturday mornings In Irvine. There is a great get together (I don't know what else to call it) in the parking lot at the Ford design center. The cars that show up are mind blowing. Anything you can dream up is represented. Cars start showing up about 7am and it over by 9am.

If you come down just let me know. I will give you ride.

Longboard

 

I really have no idea on the 0-60.

I stayed glued to the back of a turbo 350z recently (while staying under the speed limit of course). When we got to the next light I pulled next to him and he just looked mad. I'm sure he had allot of money in that car.

Longboard

 

Thanks, You guy's don't meet later in the afternoon anywhere? I'm probably 4-5 hours away. Irvine has a great outdoor mall, seen it when we were on vacation at San Clemete a couple years ago, couldnt get my wife out of there .