Thank you Nick......
Yes the initiall testing really pumped me up, and with so much more coming
in the next week or two....Look out.

But the best part is the safe boost pressures and EGT's we are running boding well for future reliabillity and safe running.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

for all you m62 experts: are all eaton m62's the same? they look the same. the reason i ask is because you can get the m62 just about anywhere in junkyards. they can go as low as $100 at pick and pull. if it breaks, do an exchange you can pull them off of bonnevilles, grand prix and park avenues for example.

 

any chance we can see a dyno sheet of the new run?? also, I forgot what the baseline numbers were and dont feel like checking through the entire thread to check, could you refresh my memory?

 

Thank you iggy....

But as I said in one of the earlier posts.

"we are intentionally withholding certain numbers and variables from public view at this time."

All the Dyno sheets and specific numbers are propriatary for the moment.
But feel comfortable that we will share the whole story and nothing but
as soon as we are done testing and tuning.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Hey peter, will the DFIC cope with the M62, or will you make a DFIC designed in conjunction with the M62 ?

 

The DFIC is part of this particular (spiderX) car buid up, and it flows incredibly well...

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

I think most of the momentum to get the M62 kits out there in a hurry is being driven by us, the potential customers, and not the developers. I've followed this thread from close to the beginning, and most of the posts by the developers have been cautionary, saying give them time to get it sorted out. Beyond that, anybody interested in adding this kit has to understand that it is like any other mod - at the owners risk. If you don't want to risk hurting your car or disturbing your warranty, leave things stock.

Personally, I think that much of the interest in this mod is due to it's apparent ability to both appear stock and still give big performance increases without the complexity of a turbo or twin-charged setup. Bottom line - to each his own. If you consider it to be too large a risk to do, then sit on the sideline until the kit(s) are well sorted out with many miles on them.

 

Very well said in all aspects . I think all parties involved do not want to rush this to market. Taking all the time that is NECESSARY but not ONE day more is the plan.

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

Sorry if this has been covered, but is the DFIC a planned part of the ~$4k kit? Is the water pump? ECU?

I have an almost insanely irresistable urge to try the M62 with the TurboKompressor. Main problem is my wife would kick me out (imagine my 6'2" frame covered in old newspaper trying to sleep in the Mini ).

 

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Thanks for the Update Peter
It's amazing that they even got the dyno to work with the DSC on. Mine wouldn't work at all with the DSC on. These numbers are WAY low (IMO)...I'm understand that it's still in R&D phase and I'm glad to see that your keeping everyone up to speed. I am interested to see the MTH software with the m62. -- Johan

 

The guy that works next to me has a '00 GTP, and we checked out the SC on his car, the case looks a lot different than the one in this kit.

 

Just to make sure, the baseline that you're referring to is Bob's car with the DFIC and the new numbers are from only the addition of the m62, right? In the baseline test, was proper cooling of the DFIC also performed? If it wasn't, then a correction of the error would sort of be favoring the test with the m62 and overexaggerating the claims.

 

That is an impressive number, particularly when viewed in the context of this being a first test, with all sorts of parameters yet to be optimized. That result speaks directly to the impact of the M62, and the added efficiency it brings to the party versus the M45. There's a lot of upside potential here!

 

whoops, sorry forgot about that part. cant blame for trying can you?

i cant wait until you have some final numbers you are able to give us, im very excited about this kit and I don't even have a Mini yet

 

And it looks very different than what is on our cars! The cases for OEM units are cast and machined as needed (for us, that's the mounting bolt to block locations and the water pump drive) and the front snout (drive) is made as needed to (to get the rotors where the need to be, and the pulley in the plane of the serpetine belt). The "aftermarket" units are the ones that all look the same......

Matt

 

That's one of the things that sold me on this project Start with the fact that the technology itself (M62) is well established outside of the mini community and has proven to be a solid performer. The mod has worked well in other vehicles (a couple of examples have been mentioned in this thread already). we have a group of people involved that are dedicated to the mini community and they have tended to be conservative in their approach with every aspect of the project. I have been following this thread from day one and have to say I have really enjoyed watching this develop! Keep up the good work!! Can't wait to see the end results!!

 

in the pursuit for clarity when data gets presented, how about defining some parameters, used for Spider and for other cars yo be tested:
baseline: what is the state of the mods?
measured condition: what changes after the baseline?
hp and tq numbers: SAE, at the wheels, but NOT corrected for drivetrain loss

 

How do you get a crank number without correcting for drivetrain loss?? (short of pulling the engine)

It's either:
- at the wheels
- at the crank (with assumed drivetrain loss)

Or am I missing something?

 

oops! so much for clarity...booboo fixed

 

looking good guys keep up the good work...

I did want everyone to know one thing... and this should help as you guys go forward...

The DSC does not need to be off... once the car senses that the back wheels are not spinning it will shut down... and remain off untill the car has been unstrapped and driven... so do not worry about that.....

 

Tuls is right on the money The ABS also shuts off when it senses you're on the chassis dyno; and then it tuns back on when you're back on the street.

 

Any more info or news?

 

We will have some more info to share shortly, but be confident that we are
working incredibly hard to get the M62 to the market place shortlly.

The next go around of testing will have a slightly different gearing on the
pulley drive. More controlled Intercooler cooling and some other small changes to the system. We will also have a couple of mules running here in SoCal shortly. One car will be a typically outfitted MINI with exhaust/ DDM airbox, exhaust and a DFIC. The other car is a fully loaded M7/Cosworth car
with all the expected cool stuff, including the new M7 Limited slip differential
which will sell for well under $1k.

Peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Still no official release timeframe?