Drivetrain M62 SC on the MINI is reality
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Spider,
Is it true that Waylon will be doing some hot laps up at CMP this weekend in your car? Someone mentioned it was already signed up in the race too? WOW
You are truely a brave soul! LOL J/K 
I take it the Sat afternoon at AMS went well with the fine tuning then? Looking forward to seeing the end result soon.
Oh and why was that cop giving me the evil eye and shaking his finger at me when I left Sat in blu? LOL
With the costs staying under the 4k range, I will definitely be interested in seeing the final dyno results in a few weeks. Might make the $/hp a little more attractive over where I am now than I originally thought....
Tim
Is it true that Waylon will be doing some hot laps up at CMP this weekend in your car? Someone mentioned it was already signed up in the race too? WOW
You are truely a brave soul! LOL J/K I take it the Sat afternoon at AMS went well with the fine tuning then? Looking forward to seeing the end result soon.
Oh and why was that cop giving me the evil eye and shaking his finger at me when I left Sat in blu? LOL
With the costs staying under the 4k range, I will definitely be interested in seeing the final dyno results in a few weeks. Might make the $/hp a little more attractive over where I am now than I originally thought....
Tim
The tune went very well..... custom tunes are not doen in a hour or two..... there is a lot to it..... that is why Motek setups and tunes can cost $20K on some race cars (dmh told me this)... my car is running strong.....
I liked your car... very nice
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From: Infinity and beyond
Originally Posted by SpiderX
The tune went very well..... custom tunes are not doen in a hour or two..... there is a lot to it..... that is why Motek setups and tunes can cost $20K on some race cars
Originally Posted by SpiderX
my car is running strong.....
I assume yo uare still not at liberty to say anyting... which I understand very well... heh heh
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A guys gotta ask, right? Waylon mentioned you reminded everyone a few times that your car was not to be entered this weekend. LOL A staged checkered flag shot might have been cool to post up for you to see though.....
Very interested in the final result though seriously, maybe a xmas present to me from me? LOL
Let me know when you get back in town and lets cross paths for a look see...
And every Mini in Alpharetta is probably under the evil eye for a few weeks now! LOL
Tim
Very interested in the final result though seriously, maybe a xmas present to me from me? LOL
Let me know when you get back in town and lets cross paths for a look see...
And every Mini in Alpharetta is probably under the evil eye for a few weeks now! LOL
Tim
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Hello,
Glad to see this is moving forward but I too am a little disappointed about the price. I am not saying that this kit is not worth it (heck we don't even know exactly what the final kit consists of yet) and I know there is a price to pay for R&D, but...I was hoping for a kit that everyone could afford and not pay more $ just because it produces more HP and TQ than other more expensive kits. Please don't take this the wrong way; I am not trying to bust anyone's @@. I was just hoping for under $3K. Still interested but it will be a while for me.
Frodo
Glad to see this is moving forward but I too am a little disappointed about the price. I am not saying that this kit is not worth it (heck we don't even know exactly what the final kit consists of yet) and I know there is a price to pay for R&D, but...I was hoping for a kit that everyone could afford and not pay more $ just because it produces more HP and TQ than other more expensive kits. Please don't take this the wrong way; I am not trying to bust anyone's @@. I was just hoping for under $3K. Still interested but it will be a while for me.
Frodo
...The developers are still in R & D for this kit, and yes it will be sold as a kit to the public. Release date? I haven't spoken to him about that but I assume it would be available later this year. Don't hold me to this figure, but he is shooting for a price below $3000. He wants to make it as widely available for everyone as possible...
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the comment comparing the two Lotus cars is interesting. Same sort of thing could be said comparing the Mini and Mini-S, but there you get some 40hp by adding the M45 and, what, $5,000
I don't think the comparison applies to M45 to M62 changes.
I don't think the comparison applies to M45 to M62 changes.
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your up early.... (I am off to the health club in a minute)
I don't think we know yet.... if my cars delta was say 200whp (clogged cat) with the 45 and is 250 with the 62 that would be 70whp gain from the 62.....(subtract the 45)
the dyno is being done on Thursday...... pully sizes are being experimented with...... cats/headers replaced (hopefully) as I have already said..... the torque improvement is worth the implementation (IMO) ......and even though we know there is more power available from where the car is at, I would be happy with its current numbers......it really is fun.....
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Is there any data on the heat yet.
I know one of the issues with the M45 is that it makes more heat than is wanted and the M62 is better, but how much?
Could the improvement with the M62 allow using the stock intercooler?
Thanks - Jeff
I know one of the issues with the M45 is that it makes more heat than is wanted and the M62 is better, but how much?
Could the improvement with the M62 allow using the stock intercooler?
Thanks - Jeff
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The reason that DDM/M7 is looking for "early adopters" is to get info from different configurations..... it does not seem that heat is an issue in carge temps or under bonnet......
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"if my cars delta was say 200whp (clogged cat) with the 45 and is 250 with the 62 that would be 70whp gain from the 62.....(subtract the 45)'
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The Lotus comparison was between a NA car and a supercharged M62 car; like comparing the Mini to the Mini-s, but with an M45. and they squeezed out 50hp, NA vs blown/M62
In the context of this thread, we want to compare the difference between an M45 and M62 on the same car. Do you think the NA/M62 delta would be more or less than the M45/M62 delta?
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The Lotus comparison was between a NA car and a supercharged M62 car; like comparing the Mini to the Mini-s, but with an M45. and they squeezed out 50hp, NA vs blown/M62
In the context of this thread, we want to compare the difference between an M45 and M62 on the same car. Do you think the NA/M62 delta would be more or less than the M45/M62 delta?
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Originally Posted by SpiderxXx
the dyno is being done on Thursday.......
Originally Posted by SpiderxXx
as I have already said..... the torque improvement is worth the implementation (IMO) ......and even though we know there is more power available from where the car is at, I would be happy with its current numbers......it really is fun.....
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"if my cars delta was say 200whp (clogged cat) with the 45 and is 250 with the 62 that would be 70whp gain from the 62.....(subtract the 45)'
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The Lotus comparison was between a NA car and a supercharged M62 car; like comparing the Mini to the Mini-s, but with an M45. and they squeezed out 50hp, NA vs blown/M62
In the context of this thread, we want to compare the difference between an M45 and M62 on the same car. Do you think the NA/M62 delta would be more or less than the M45/M62 delta?
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The Lotus comparison was between a NA car and a supercharged M62 car; like comparing the Mini to the Mini-s, but with an M45. and they squeezed out 50hp, NA vs blown/M62
In the context of this thread, we want to compare the difference between an M45 and M62 on the same car. Do you think the NA/M62 delta would be more or less than the M45/M62 delta?
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it is in the works
All this M62 talk has effectively stalled my plans for a 15% pulley 
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I just hope that all this testing and beta early adoption doesn't mean that we can't buy one in the next 2 weeks or so. I'm anxious to see numbers before I spring on this, but if it's not ready soon I may have to go another route for what i'm planning. I'm getting my car in soon and there is NO way I can wait a month or two, as my car is going up north for business soon after it comes in. So I need to get the parts, get the car, and get it installed in under a week once I get my car in!
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I just hope that all this testing and beta early adoption doesn't mean that we can't buy one in the next 2 weeks or so. I'm anxious to see numbers before I spring on this, but if it's not ready soon I may have to go another route for what i'm planning. I'm getting my car in soon and there is NO way I can wait a month or two, as my car is going up north for business soon after it comes in. So I need to get the parts, get the car, and get it installed in under a week once I get my car in!
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I just hope that all this testing and beta early adoption doesn't mean that we can't buy one in the next 2 weeks or so. I'm anxious to see numbers before I spring on this, but if it's not ready soon I may have to go another route for what i'm planning. I'm getting my car in soon and there is NO way I can wait a month or two, as my car is going up north for business soon after it comes in. So I need to get the parts, get the car, and get it installed in under a week once I get my car in!
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Shipping parts is not a problem, having you the buyer figuring out
what to do when there's issues with the software or the hardware is.
But DDM and M7 want's the part to be rock solid and safe, allowing you the owner to enjoy the car to the fullest IE. no down time because the car is over heating, bolts falling of or other un-scheduled maintenance issues....
We will have at least 5 cars with the M62 systems testing for the next 2-4 weeks, and if everything goes like stink..
expect the products toship shortly there after.
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From: SoCaL (Agoura Hills)
Ya, the problem isn't getting the parts, it's getting the work done. The closest performance shop I know of to where this car is going is over an 8 hour drive. I can't drive 8 hours to have parts installed on the car, it needs to get done before it's shipped, and I don't have the flexibility to wait, i've been following this thread since it was started, so the interest is there, it's just about feasiblity. I hope this kit is released in time, and I certainly don't want it rushed, that would be even more frustrating!
Thank you Joe.....
Shipping parts is not a problem, having you the buyer figuring out
what to do when there's issues with the software or the hardware is.
But DDM and M7 want's the part to be rock solid and safe, allowing you the owner to enjoy the car to the fullest IE. no down time because the car is over heating, bolts falling of or other un-scheduled maintenance issues....
We will have at least 5 cars with the M62 systems testing for the next 2-4 weeks, and if everything goes like stink.. expect the products to
ship shortly there after.
peter
Team M7
562-608-8123
Shipping parts is not a problem, having you the buyer figuring out
what to do when there's issues with the software or the hardware is.
But DDM and M7 want's the part to be rock solid and safe, allowing you the owner to enjoy the car to the fullest IE. no down time because the car is over heating, bolts falling of or other un-scheduled maintenance issues....
We will have at least 5 cars with the M62 systems testing for the next 2-4 weeks, and if everything goes like stink..
expect the products toship shortly there after.
peter
Team M7
562-608-8123
Ya, the problem isn't getting the parts, it's getting the work done. The closest performance shop I know of to where this car is going is over an 8 hour drive. I can't drive 8 hours to have parts installed on the car, it needs to get done before it's shipped, and I don't have the flexibility to wait, i've been following this thread since it was started, so the interest is there, it's just about feasiblity. I hope this kit is released in time, and I certainly don't want it rushed, that would be even more frustrating!
