Howerton is based out of Cali. I have no idea where thought.

 

So does 100% Meth still help with cooling? I know it definitely helps with upping the Octane.

Reason I ask is, few on here running Manic, tuned for Meth (Stage 2+) are talking about running a 500cc Nozzle. Well, a while back I grabbed the wrong Nozzle from my SP Kit. Turned Out I was pushing about 625cc/min. I was using the 50/50 Boost Juice, and that pissed my DME off. MINI went right into Limp Mode.

Now I know the Manic Tune will utilize the fuel curve effects that the Meth will create at 500cc/min, just not sure if any water in the mix would be safe when pushing that aggressive.

Sorry for the long explanation, but yeah, will I be better off getting both the increase Octane and Lower cooling effects of 100% Meth?

 

During my logging I have seen no difference between 100% methanol and various mixtures when it comes to lowering IATs. They all lower IATs about the same.

 

I'm going to give it a try. Plus I bet my SP Boost juice is suspect. I feel like I'm going to feel and see a world of difference when I get some officially rated Methanol...

 

I wouldn't get hung up in trying to reach 500cc with manic tune. The meth is going to provide more fuel especially when boosting more. If you are running 100% meth, you should be ok with say 350cc or so. That's what I am running and my air fuels are in the 11's at 21-22 psi. Maybe once you start going to the 50/50 mixture you would need more spray volume. Point is, I would log your run with whatever nozzle you have and map c to see where you are at. If you are running out of fuel (approaching mid 12's) and seeing high intake temps, then tune with a bigger jet.

 

I thought with C you needed an upgraded turbo?

 

Makes sense. Plus all companies claim said amount of flow rate from their Nozzles/systems. I guess it's best to see how everything runs with my current set up and adjust fire from there👍

 

The stock turbo will be pushing a lot of hot air at that level. It's out of its efficiency range.

 

Does anyone have a stock compressor map?

If we know flow and pressure ratio, we can see. Purely looking at gauge pressure doesn't tell the whole story.

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Its the opposite. You spray more with pure MeOH and less with water mixtures.

http://howertonengineering.com/tech-...ating-jetting/

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Agreed. Thank you for clarifying. My point (was trying to make) wasn't so much about how much meth to run as it's to check with logging to see where your a/f is.

 

This is one on Frankenturbo website. You are way out there at +21 psi.

 

+1 anyone who is not stock needs to log and monitor.

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I've been using the HSF-4 kit now since April and it's been awesome. zero problems, zero issues and zero complaints. I will say the initial expense of the system was pretty high but I look at it like this. It's money well spent considering the system can only do good for the well being of my MCS's engine.

Jeff was awesome to deal with in the begining and he was always there to answer a few tech Qs that we had. I was going to pay someone to install my kit but I then decided to tackle it myself along with a buddy of mine. That way we learned the "how and why's" of the sytem should I have any issues down the road.

 

What are the flow rate of the r56 injectors? I've seen 400cc tossed around but was unsure where this number comes from because I had seen else where that direct injection flow was measured differently than just "injector" size like on the r53.

 

Nice pillar set. Which one is that? (Sorry if already asked, still catching up.)

 

I had to make it, I have never seen one for sale in the US.

 

In that case great job!

 

How does you guys' flow gauge look like on wide open throttle?
I saw on some subaru's that run aquamist, their flow gauge lights up all the flow lights and it is steady. Indicating full flow. Mine bounces up and down as if it were super sensitive.
Does you guys' bounce around at WOT or does the lights just stay on?
Check out this vid. Skip to 1:56

 

 

Hmm..thanks for the vid.
Looks like I got some trouble shooting to do.
Also on the Subaru, the Water Injection light stays on in all the vids I've seen.
Yours isn't on and mine is like a super dim light. I wonder what that means lol.

 

As I give more throttle the bars slowly increase until all the bars are on which is 100% flow. I think a lot of this has to do to how the dials on the board are configured.

 

yay more troubleshooting. I definitely have a problem. Unless it is a problem with the flow sensor being interfered.
Here is a vid to describe the situation.

Thanks!

 

Where's your SC set at, 12oclock?

If you think you have an issue, email Jeff, it'll safe you a lot of work, very helpful guy.

 

I believe its 2 o'clock. I'll stick to the aquamist forums and ask Richard for some advice. Jeff didn't want to help me with previous questions before because I bought the system second hand ...