that sounds good man =], can u link me/pm me the site for the moroso spiral flow? =]

 

i got mine from summit, but there ad is less informing than jegs


http://www.jegs.com/p/Moroso/Moroso-...44819/10002/-1

 

Can someone tell me what is the weight of the stock 1st gen MCS exhaust? I'm all up for some HP gain and nice throttle sound, but going to a stainless steel aftermarket exhaust I would also expect some weight savings.

 

HAHA omg, the stock exhaust weighs alot then u'll expect. i would say it weighed about 40lb? any aftermarket exhaust would easily be lighter then that

 

Well, in the first post I saw the weight ranges from 22 to 34lbs. If I recall correctly only 2 were in the low 20s (and one of those was the One Ball which is more a hacked OEM than a real aftermarket). Taking those 2 out, the others don't really offer that much savings if the real OEM weight is 40lbs. My reference is my ex-335 which the stock exhaust weighted 76lbs and the Britalman I replaced it with was around 46lbs; hence why I asked. It seems the Miltek is the most popular one, but it falls on the heavier side in terms of weight. Thanks for the reply.

 

From posts I've read here, I have notes putting the stock exhaust between 42-48 lbs. I have one laying around, but it won't fit on my bathroom scale to weigh it .

 

np man thanks for the info!

 

Will the scale fit in the Garage. LOLOLOL

 

when i switched my stock exhaust for a JCW exhaust, i heard/saw no difference in HP gain. BUT because of the lighter weight of the JCW, it feels so much better/faster

LOL about the scale! gotta get a pics of that!!! Lol!

 

I wanted to ask about Invidia? It sounds great from the outside, but how is the sound inside? I am mostly worried about those long trips 4,000RPM or so? Is it very noticeable, bothering?

 

invidia isnt too loud in the cabin, it sounds just like the one-ball to me

 

Ive had the Invidia for two years and even with my RMW header its not loud inside the cabin. Even on the turnpike at 85 mph I barely notice it when i have the radio on

 

I have the Invidia exhaust for my 03 MCS last night from Helix. if i fold down my back seat, the deep tone (bass sound) is too loud for me inside the car. if the back seat is up, the deep tone will cut down a little bit.

 

I have invidia as well and it's not loud inside the cabin unless you fold down the backs seats. I have enjoyed it very much. sounds awesome. I've gotten many compliments on it from friends and MINI meets

 

Yeah... I am thinking about Invidia... it looks awesome too. I love sound at idle or low speeds, but I am just worried about those long 1000 mile trips at 4,500RPMs, if it will be too annoying or not? Also, is it legal? Any emission problems? What is the air intake you have, as I need that too?

 

I think you will be fine. I don't believe its illegal and i had no problem passing the emissions test recently. I have an alta intake with the box top and silicone tube. Its pretty loud at 3,000RPMs so you might get annoyed by it after a while. If I had the choice i would go with the jcw intake. You can find both at outmotoring.com

 

I have a same setting...So anyone can cut down some deep tone?

 

excuse my ignorance... Is the deep tone and majority of noise level coming from exhaust or air intake? Ideally, in my setup I would like to hear exhaust, especially at lower RPMs, hear air intake (not too much), but at the same time be able to drive long trips without getting a headache.... is that too much to ask?

 

I was talking about the intake. There are some videos on youtube of the different kinds of air intakes. I would say the alta would annoy you if you are going to be driving at 4,500RPMs for that amount of miles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyFe4780akA

 

what are other not expensive intake alternatives? Alta price is pretty good, but JCW is a little pricey... Also, pulleys, how much power do they add, why 15, 17, or 19? I guess 19 is best, but I heard that high revs can damage the engine...

 

I agree with chubbycheddar. Alta intake would annoy.
I will like Dinan instead of JCW intake.
I have M7 16% pulley. No problem at all.

 

Who drives at 4500RPM for extended periods of time? 6th gear at 70 is like 3k right?

 

Yup,
3100 ish is 75 in my car,
I have the OBX header, with a moroso sprial muffler in place of the zoomers muffler in a zoomers system, not really happy with the exhaust yet, but it is much better than the zoomers muffler,

The intake is the Alta with lid, with a 15% Randy Webb pulley, i liked the intake sound, never annoying, only got load at WOT,

 

)) my bad.. yeah, like 3,500 RPMs, but if you drive long distance... like to MITM event, road is open 80-90mph is not a bad speed...

 

so i picked up the v2 version of the ALTA exhaust, and before i install it im wondering if that "rattling" problem is still present in these newer versions? i know ALTA is working well with the people who have this problem, but is it found in all their exhausts or only some of them?