Drivetrain The Always Up-to-Date Thread on Tuning 2011+ (N18) MINIs
6th Gear
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From: Savannah Georgia
Wow... I guess my NM tune is nonexistent... Luckily I have the colder spark plugs and FMIC so I'm 2/3rds there!
Also, RennTech is available but a little more than PAW's tune. Both give you spark plugs.
6th Gear
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From: Savannah Georgia
There it was!!! Seriously, would not let that man touch my MINI! Of course there are still people who want to load their MINIs up with cheap no-name eBay crap....
2nd Gear
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From: Miami, Florida Sunshine
Lenny
that is the tune i want! peak torque at 4,500 with a nice flat curve!
what mods are needed? can i send the ECU or does this require an in-person dyno tune?
i have a tyrolsport FMIC on order, a dry aFe drop in filter (pending a DOS setup for the CMS All4), a hotside resonator delete and a milltek DP-back exhaust (no resonator, no second cat)
DP is stock, recirc valve is stock
scott
that is the tune i want! peak torque at 4,500 with a nice flat curve!
what mods are needed? can i send the ECU or does this require an in-person dyno tune?
i have a tyrolsport FMIC on order, a dry aFe drop in filter (pending a DOS setup for the CMS All4), a hotside resonator delete and a milltek DP-back exhaust (no resonator, no second cat)
DP is stock, recirc valve is stock
scott
Thanks to THETA CMS JCW. Here's a dyno tuned done on 2013 R60 CMS JCW 4ALL in Florida hot humid day (this update give 145whp/liter... makes it a bit more over the previous tuned 2013 R56 GP N18). Relative stock with just added HiPower ign plugs (CMS JCW stock intercooler seems to do a good job =)
Also, the N18 it's a good overall engine over the previous N14 when done right.
Last edited by m54b25; Jun 1, 2013 at 02:07 PM.
Hi Scott,
Thanks to THETA CMS JCW. Here's a dyno tuned done on 2013 R60 CMS JCW 4ALL in Florida hot humid day (this update give 145whp/liter... makes it a bit more over the previous tuned 2013 R56 GP N18). Relative stock with just added HiPower ign plugs (CMS JCW stock intercooler seems to do a good job =)
Also, the N18 it's a good overall engine over the previous N14 when done right.
Thanks to THETA CMS JCW. Here's a dyno tuned done on 2013 R60 CMS JCW 4ALL in Florida hot humid day (this update give 145whp/liter... makes it a bit more over the previous tuned 2013 R56 GP N18). Relative stock with just added HiPower ign plugs (CMS JCW stock intercooler seems to do a good job =)
Also, the N18 it's a good overall engine over the previous N14 when done right.
Would be interesting to see what you can squeeze out with a 2.5" high-flow exhaust, a downpipe, and a larger intercooler. I'm guessing ~240 whp/wtq, maybe ~250 whp/wtq with meth.
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2011
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From: Irvine, CA
Very impressive, Lenny. Assuming a 15% drivetrain loss, that's roughly 268 HP and 266 TQ at the crank in less than ideal conditions on a stock car.
Would be interesting to see what you can squeeze out with a 2.5" high-flow exhaust, a downpipe, and a larger intercooler. I'm guessing ~240 whp/wtq, maybe ~250 whp/wtq with meth.
Would be interesting to see what you can squeeze out with a 2.5" high-flow exhaust, a downpipe, and a larger intercooler. I'm guessing ~240 whp/wtq, maybe ~250 whp/wtq with meth.
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Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Los Angeles
Damn, I wish I lived in Florida now lol.
These numbers probably wouldn't be possible unless the car was dyno tuned vs sending the ECU correct?
A bit sad that none of the Mini vendors on here are capable of tuning these things. At least that's what I'm seeing.
I have almost everything done aside from the tune, and hooking up the meth.
These numbers probably wouldn't be possible unless the car was dyno tuned vs sending the ECU correct?
A bit sad that none of the Mini vendors on here are capable of tuning these things. At least that's what I'm seeing.
I have almost everything done aside from the tune, and hooking up the meth.
Mods/tuning is a bit of a chicken-or-egg problem. There isn't a lot of money being spent on Countryman parts, for example. But is that because Countryman owners aren't inclined to mod their cars or because there are precious few mods to buy?
A company runs a big risk in offering products where there may not be a market for them. I can't blame a shop for wanting to gauge interest before they spend a lot of money on software if there is a real risk it might be put to use. I'll tell you this: If the cars could be OBDII tuned, HG would probably have started offering MINI tunes like yesterday. The need to bench flash is a huge PITA especially when remote tuning. They would essentially have to leave the car on the dyno all day, which would mean they wouldn't be able to tune anything else for long stretches. They could probably tune a half dozen other cars in the time they'd need to do one MINI.
I think HG was trying to tie in with RennTech and this was a PAW tune...which may or may not be the same or close.
There's isn't a big difference between them anyway, is there?
I hear you. But I don't get the impression HG is looking for people to grovel and plead. I think they are legitimately trying to gauge interest.
Mods/tuning is a bit of a chicken-or-egg problem. There isn't a lot of money being spent on Countryman parts, for example. But is that because Countryman owners aren't inclined to mod their cars or because there are precious few mods to buy?
A company runs a big risk in offering products where there may not be a market for them. I can't blame a shop for wanting to gauge interest before they spend a lot of money on software if there is a real risk it might be put to use. I'll tell you this: If the cars could be OBDII tuned, HG would probably have started offering MINI tunes like yesterday. The need to bench flash is a huge PITA especially when remote tuning. They would essentially have to leave the car on the dyno all day, which would mean they wouldn't be able to tune anything else for long stretches. They could probably tune a half dozen other cars in the time they'd need to do one MINI.
Because there are precious few mods to buy! Pretty much did every mod out there and not having anything else to do is pissing me off.
I hear you. But I don't get the impression HG is looking for people to grovel and plead. I think they are legitimately trying to gauge interest.
Mods/tuning is a bit of a chicken-or-egg problem. There isn't a lot of money being spent on Countryman parts, for example. But is that because Countryman owners aren't inclined to mod their cars or because there are precious few mods to buy?
A company runs a big risk in offering products where there may not be a market for them. I can't blame a shop for wanting to gauge interest before they spend a lot of money on software if there is a real risk it might be put to use. I'll tell you this: If the cars could be OBDII tuned, HG would probably have started offering MINI tunes like yesterday. The need to bench flash is a huge PITA especially when remote tuning. They would essentially have to leave the car on the dyno all day, which would mean they wouldn't be able to tune anything else for long stretches. They could probably tune a half dozen other cars in the time they'd need to do one MINI.
4th Gear
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Keller, TX
I know I reached out to jan with the question about the surging and be thought it might have been due to the car running lean... Jan remotes tuned my R53 over 10-15 times as I added mods. Back in the good old days when files could be emailed and flashed to the ECU.