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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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Awesome, Lenny. Really hope it comes through. Yes, they are great guys. I am heading over there tomorrow to get the full exhaust installed. Really, really hoping you can work your magic.

So is Lenny planning to come to S.D. That would be AWESOME

I'd much rather have a hands on, dyno assisted, tuner driven tune than any ship away the ECU version.

Hopefully he'd add some training for the HG guys so they'd be the continuing support too.

Keep us updated so we can coordinate it all.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaremy Cheetwood
Does anyone else notice that dyno.. after 4.5k flat on its face.. no power..

thats rough and doesnt look like a good tune.

Compare the graphs:







Just look at the difference in their 4.5-6k over the one posted above.

Looks like the N18 just dies after 4.5k and goes flat.. interesting.
You realize the graphs have different y axes, right? All of them show about 180 ft-lbs of torque at 6000 rpm.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hoppes-no9
You realize the graphs have different y axes, right? All of them show about 180 ft-lbs of torque at 6000 rpm.
Talking Peak HP not Tq..
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Gotcha, thought you were looking at the drop in Tq above 4500 rpm.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Yeah I was more so trying to show the flat line HP at 4500 rpm.. thats not good.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Think it's the tune or the engine?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
An oil cooler is something I've been thinking about. It seems like a good longevity/reliability mod. I was shocked when I saw on my ScanGauge that the oil temps are regularly in the low 200s.

Question is, where do you mount it that it won't get in the way of the FMIC? Especially since I'm going with the TyrolSport FMIC, which covers most of the radiator?

Hujan, Chris Sneed from Sneed Speed addressed this just a couple of days ago HERE

I'm looking forward to them developing an oil cooler that is compatible with a larger FMIC as I have seriously run out of performance mods (not counting extreme crap and wheels). I agree though... cooler is better.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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Someone brought up a good point at the motorcross last Saturday. The N18 engines are going to end up rather rare due to the introduction of the new BMW engine and will likely never see a large tuner supper network. Just too few of them to be profitable.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ignitionmodule
Someone brought up a good point at the motorcross last Saturday. The N18 engines are going to end up rather rare due to the introduction of the new BMW engine and will likely never see a large tuner supper network. Just too few of them to be profitable.
Yep, and that'll suck major ones for those that are still looking for tune that is perfect for their needs.

Oh and btw I was gonna use NM as my tuner but after talking to Jerry he said there is still the surging issue. He said he is going to pull the plug on the automatic stage 1 tune as well for us. Oh well, there's always RennTech haha. I will report back after I get this tune. Good luck to the rest of you looking for a tune.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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What? Rob made a decision? A historic milestone for him! Lol I'm going RennTech as well, just saving up. Looked it up and they are only an hour away from me. That helped me make my decision pretty quickly lol but before I decided Renntech, I was looking NM stage 2 but I'd rather custom than canned.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI4LYF
What? Rob made a decision? A historic milestone for him! Lol I'm going RennTech as well, just saving up. Looked it up and they are only an hour away from me. That helped me make my decision pretty quickly lol but before I decided Renntech, I was looking NM stage 2 but I'd rather custom than canned.
Yes! Yes I did choose finally, hooray for me:-). Haha, but yeah I agree custom is better than a canned tune. I'm gonna be happy with my decision. See ya on tuner side!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI4LYF
What? Rob made a decision? A historic milestone for him!
Dude.... that was kinda wrong. Yay Rob!!!!! Good job, Rob.

 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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RennTech

Just got off the phone with Mark at RennTech regarding an ECS tune for my R60 All4 S automatic.

Mark indicated that their canned tune is the same regardless which mods (e.g. FMIC) are on the car -- which means it doesn't whether I tune first then add the FMIC, or vice versa. Has anyone heard differently from RennTech, i.e. Lenny?

Plus, Mark says they are now offering an FMIC for the R60. Mark wouldn't say who supplies it, but quoted $900. It doesn't show up on their website. Anyone know which FMIC they are selling?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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@hoppes-no9 Forge has R60 FMIC
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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RennTech Dyno Tuning in SoCal

For those of you looking to get a RennTech dyno tune who, like me, have the misfortune of living on the West Coast instead of Florida, I have some potentially exciting news:

HG Motorsports in San Diego has been in touch with RennTech to develop a system to remote dyno tune cars for RennTech from HG's facility in San Diego. I understand from HG they are willing and able to do it, as is RennTech. The only catch is that HG will have to spend a little money to update their software to make it happen.

Because the remote dyno tuning will be MINI-specific, the big question from HG's perspective is how much interest there might be in RennTech dyno tunes among MINI owners within driving distance of their facility.

With that in mind, I thought I would throw this out to all the MINI owners looking for tunes. But for those of us with N18s (especially late-model N18s), a RennTech dyno tune is one of precious few options.

I'd like to gather a few names of interested people who would make the trip to HG Motorsports for a dyno tune. I understand that price is a factor, but if it's something you'd do for a reasonable price, please shoot me a PM or post-up in the thread I started about this.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28Kid
@hoppes-no9 Forge has R60 FMIC
Unless something has changed recently, the Forge R60 intercooler was designed on a Euro-spec R60 and will not fit the US R60 without significant modification to the crash bumper. (Apparently Forge was unaware when they designed the FMIC that the crash bumper on the Euro-spec R60 is different from the US R60s.)
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan

Unless something has changed recently, the Forge R60 intercooler was designed on a Euro-spec R60 and will not fit the US R60 without significant modification to the crash bumper. (Apparently Forge was unaware when they designed the FMIC that the crash bumper on the Euro-spec R60 is different from the US R60s.)
I've read (possibly from you) that they're redesigning for US bumpers, but I haven't seen anything that said they were done.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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@Ch28Kid - just to clarify, I wasn't asking who makes an FMIC for the R60, I was asking who makes the one RENNTECH SELLS.....
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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For the $900, it stands to reason that they're selling the TyrolSport FMIC.

The Forge R60 FMIC will not be re-designed per both their US and UK divisions. Besides, it's fun to shove that huge hunk of FMIC in there - it's like solving a puzzle.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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2013 Mini R56 GP JCW N18 - PAW Dyno

Originally Posted by bmwr606
i thought the dyno chart you posted was from "PAW"? are they the same as renntech?

is this a run from your 2013 jcw? if so, i hope that absolutely means they can tune my late ecu 2012

if it is renntech, what is the difference between sport on/sport off?

thanks

As per request, here's a 2013 R56 GP w/N18 6spd dyno. Stock & modified with just PAW software, exhaust, HiPower Ign plugs & intercooler. Everything else it's stock, including intake airbox.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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20WHP/30WTQ gains not too bad.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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Why is PAW not listed as a vendor for ECU tunes?

I just got off the phone with Luis (PAW owner) and he confirmed he can tune my '12 R60, +25-30hp gain regardless auto or manual transmission. His tune requires an FMIC. $725 plus shipping.

I think I had read somewhere (probably on here) that PAW was somehow linked with RennTech, but Luis said there is no relationship whatsoever between the two companies.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hoppes-no9
Why is PAW not listed as a vendor for ECU tunes?

I just got off the phone with Luis (PAW owner) and he confirmed he can tune my '12 R60, +25-30hp gain regardless auto or manual transmission. His tune requires an FMIC. $725 plus shipping.

I think I had read somewhere (probably on here) that PAW was somehow linked with RennTech, but Luis said there is no relationship whatsoever between the two companies.
Luis is going to the MOTD this upcoming week. He's going to put out his name and company in person since so many MINIs are going to be there. That's exciting, and probably word of mouth will expand throughout the MINI community.

Also don't forget Luis recommends using his spark plugs he provides for $88 total.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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So a modded GP2 only makes 226WHP. Just noticed this. A similarly modded MCS can make the same power apparently more tq. I make 250WTQ on an MCS with similar WHP.

I have seen Gen2 JCWs make 250WHP/310WTQ with a few mods. I have seen plenty of JCWs get into the 230-240WHP range with 270-290WTQ.. something seems funny now that I look at it again.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaremy Cheetwood
So a modded GP2 only makes 226WHP. Just noticed this. A similarly modded MCS can make the same power apparently more tq. I make 250WTQ on an MCS with similar WHP.

I have seen Gen2 JCWs make 250WHP/310WTQ with a few mods. I have seen plenty of JCWs get into the 230-240WHP range with 270-290WTQ.. something seems funny now that I look at it again.
I think only Jan can pump out crazy impressive numbers.
 
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