In order to get a good result (or a readout period), you need a mount..... if it slides on the seat, or someone holding it moves, it shoots any results out the window.

 

I once used DynoLicious on an airplane. It gave pretty interesting results (don't know if they were accurate, though).

When I used it on my Civic Si, it calculated HP as 138. My wife's Outlander was 144 HP - both with an iPhone base which is pretty solid.

I wonder if our altitude (8,300 feet) had something to do with the results.

 

Well id rather ask normally with a touch of critisism, than "hello Jan everything you say is great, SSLLUURRPP. 4 Tunes please"

And if your trying to have a pop at "british humour" id pick your words wisely my friend as im not into Nationalists!

 

I used the cup holder...seems to hold the phone really solid, thanks to the rubber grips on the cup holder....

who knows....

 

Regarding dynolicous.... My MSC is 100% stock (well except for my stubby antenna) and I put 2850 lbs for the weight... It was giving me 145whp pretty consistantly, though one time i was able to pull 155whp, i think it might have something to do with heatsoak, since it wasn't that cool out

Or maybe that one run my iphone shifted or something... I find that putting it in the cup holder and having the 2 tabs hold it in work pretty well, unless anyone else found that this is inconsistant, correct me otherwise....

old81, you said best mod's with tune for money are IC and DP.... How would changing the exhast instead compare to changing the DP?

 

Primministar, nothing aimed your way, not sure why you decided to pee in the cup. But whatever.

Since you have never met Jan, he is a pretty mellow professional, I'm probably old enough to be your father or granddad, based upon your posting.

I would suggest civility.

Edit: Your at 8300ft, where are you located? :-)

Having known a few folks from the UK and visited many times, I think my humor is a little dry and gets me in trouble frequently.

But I prefer to think of myself as a displaced Frenchie. By association, since I'm good old California kid by birth.

As for the "SSLLUURRPP", Jan's flash unit can support that and a bit more, so 4 or 6 tunes, "please".

Now back to the discussion, you were going to post some dyno charts, you have them?

 

Sorry for the double posting, needed to clear the air.

Sabes, changing the exhaust will provide a bit of HP, not much unless it is combined with an enhanced DP (RISS, ED, ALTA, a few others).

The IC will minimize heat soak, the modified DP will provide better exhaust flow, but can give you CELs (many postings on NAM).

If you can get cool air into your engine, keep the turbo air cooler and get the exhaust flowing, you should be able to get an optimum tune or even make your stock engine perform at it's best.

Only my opinion, since I'm just an old racer.

 

Hey OLD81 what where your final tune numbers??

 

Fair do's, but i do have a point in saying Yawn, Its been a while and i still haven't even been given a rough ETA, it sort of puts you off after asking 3 times and not being given one. I cant get the dyno charts onto my computer using the scanner as they are laminated and just coming out as a huge amount of light. Has anyone got a trick to be able to scan laminated paper?

 

Take a digital photo of it with a camera...without flash obviously. Then upload.

 

Well, since I was actually born in England, I guess I'm allowed to make a "pop" at british humor.

No offense meant...



I understand. I waited for months and months to get someone to break into the ECM. Finally I bought a stage I kit for my '08 MCS.

When I bought my '09 JCW, imagine my surprise when shortly after Jan came out with a tune.

Just out of curiousity, I thought there was a company (starts with a P) on your side of the pond that had some outrageous hp/tq numbers. I always thought Europe got all the cool fast stuff for minis first since you don't have the emissions crap we have...no?

Mark

 

Digital, no flash should do it if you have a macro/micro focus option. I really like the Canon models for that feature.

I can understand, lots of us asking and responses nil. But when you get one it usually is real and not hype. (ok, maybe a little hype)...

I just knew there was something about OC that was lurking in the background.

Mark (OC), when are you tracking the MINI next? You are running a forge IC, right?

Don

 

Hey bud,

Yup, Forge IC... I had signed up for the Helix group buy but I wanted one before the tune so I found this one for sale on the forum.

My next tracking day is the Darkside event on Nov. 7th in Roebling Road, GA. There's a full course at VIR that I'm about ready to sign up for... just making sure finances are together. (we're doing extensive remodelling in our house)

I still need some new tires for my track wheels... at least the carbotech pads are new.

If it has **** or rolls, it's gonna be expensive.

Mark

 

Wow, your house has ****?

You thinking full out track tires or max. perf. summers? XS, RE11, AD008?

Did you have to cut any plastic to make the forge fit? Aka, fiddle like you have to with the ALTA IC...

Was your house the house in the pictures of your MINI in the wet on the driveway? What the heck would you need to do to that one!

 

Who's to say it doesn't roll? Maybe it's a mobile home...


No, definitely performance tires... RE11's, etc. Getting full blown track tires will just get me into trouble. (ie. make me think I'm better than I am...lol)

Nope, nada, zip, nothing... bolt and go.... one of the reasons I didn't go with the Alta. The other one was there is a thread on the forum where someone physcially measured heat soak drop temps, etc, etc. The Forge was second only to (I forget the brand) a very expensive one.



Yes it was...

About 50K worth of remodelling and 25K for a pool.....

It's killing me.

Mark

 

Ok not to get too off topic....
I see, makes sense... I know people are still trying to work on CEL's with their DP's, which is why i was leaning more towards an exhast... Plus i wouldn't mind the sound

I was planning on going with the Riss exhast first, then helix IC... then Jan's tune and was hoping to be close to 200 whp (is that realistic?). Then later down the line get a DP, when CEL's are all worked out

Wouldn't an exhast help the car breath better as its less restricting than stock? I'm new here so don't yell at me

 

You are correct, a new cat-back exhaust or better DP back exhaust will make the MINI breath better.

I would suggest looking at the exhausts that have a 2nd cat delete but allow for a resonator. Not sure anything bigger than 2.5 inches is needed with our engines.

Check the thread over on MA, where Nathan put up a bunch of sound videos.

 

You should be in the 190-200'ish whp range with a CAI, exhaust and RMW tune.

IMO, I think the difference between a catless downpipe and a catted downpipe (like the one Exhaust Depot made for me) is neglible. It's not worth the hassle, the effort, the smell or expense. If you want an aftermarket downpipe, get a Exhaust depot one and I doubt very much you can measure the difference in on a dyno.


I agree, you can find all sorts of exhausts made that will allow the car to breathe better and give it some sound.

Mark

 

It worked very well for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-DFbJQbeSY&fmt=18

If you have any questions on setup feel free to PM me.


...admin. I don't work for G419 anymore so this isn't considering "advertising" anymore.

 

Iv tried using a digital camera but i cant get the whole dyno chart in. And if i do its from miles away and you cant see the figures.

 

P-Torque is the guy that can tune them but he is over 5 hours away and i run my own business so cant even leave for a day to get it done without losing a days work and i work 7 days a week most of the time.

I need someone a tad closer so i can take half a day and not go out on such a loss. Thats why i thought the Remote tuning tool would be great for me.

 

As you can see by my Dyno chart. I am getting about 300 ft pounds from around 2500 rpm all the way up past redline. I am also hitting 400 hp. Wow love that dyno

Attachment 43513

 

I see the need for the remote tune and flash unit. My desire for the flash unit is to swap tunes as I add or change mods or fuel to 93 or 96 when I can get it.

Nicely done! Good luck keeping the engine together.

 

I will laugh if google links this thread and my dyno picture to the search term "400 hp mini cooper"

 

Haven't people been saying that aftermarket CAI actually hurts the power for the RMW tune?
From what i've been reading IC seems to yield the highest gains with this tune.

But this is only what i've read on these forums... i'm pretty new so don't take anything i say as fact lol


@chakraj...


that's a very steep peak... vtec maybe?