Drivetrain RMW REMOTE TUNING FOR R56 testing next week
Then how is it a relative nobody like RMW, sorry no offense meant, can do it but the big boys can't. Sounds to me more like there is not enough demand to warrant the work which brings me back to the same problem, no wonder people are moving to other platforms.
So RMW has a tune, I'm not driving to kingdom come to get it. What is this the birth of tuning, next your going to tell me I have to mail my computer in to have a chip soldered onto the board. This whole process has been pathetically primitive. I'm not knocking RMW as I'm pleased by what I have read. But I want a flash and self tune ability like an Accessport, now thats a tuning system!!!!
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So RMW has a tune, I'm not driving to kingdom come to get it. What is this the birth of tuning, next your going to tell me I have to mail my computer in to have a chip soldered onto the board. This whole process has been pathetically primitive. I'm not knocking RMW as I'm pleased by what I have read. But I want a flash and self tune ability like an Accessport, now thats a tuning system!!!!
Rumm
Btw...just curious which "big boys" you're talking about?
First, I'd hardly call RMW a relative nobody.
Second, I don't know if RMW actually figured out how to do the tune or someone else did. It's an irrevalent point, the bottom line is they're the first to offer a tune.
Third, I'm sure how much "demand" there is for it but obviously with the car being in it's 4th model year, there must be some demand.
Fourth, it seems perhaps you should have done some homework about what is available before bitching that nothing is available. You bought the car and now find out that the choices are limited.... all I can say is due diligence.
Fifth, You don't have to "kingdom" to get it. RMW goes all over the country and now with remote tuning almost available, tuning will be available for you non enthusiasts. (I drove almost 7 hours to get a tune and the weekend before I drove 8 hours just to get an exhaust... point is, I guess it's how bad you want something)
Sixth, better late than ever, go get yourself an RMW tune, you'll be glad you did.
Mark
Second, I don't know if RMW actually figured out how to do the tune or someone else did. It's an irrevalent point, the bottom line is they're the first to offer a tune.
Third, I'm sure how much "demand" there is for it but obviously with the car being in it's 4th model year, there must be some demand.
Fourth, it seems perhaps you should have done some homework about what is available before bitching that nothing is available. You bought the car and now find out that the choices are limited.... all I can say is due diligence.
Fifth, You don't have to "kingdom" to get it. RMW goes all over the country and now with remote tuning almost available, tuning will be available for you non enthusiasts. (I drove almost 7 hours to get a tune and the weekend before I drove 8 hours just to get an exhaust... point is, I guess it's how bad you want something)
Sixth, better late than ever, go get yourself an RMW tune, you'll be glad you did.
Mark
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First, I'd hardly call RMW a relative nobody.
Second, I don't know if RMW actually figured out how to do the tune or someone else did. It's an irrevalent point, the bottom line is they're the first to offer a tune.
Third, I'm sure how much "demand" there is for it but obviously with the car being in it's 4th model year, there must be some demand.
Fourth, it seems perhaps you should have done some homework about what is available before bitching that nothing is available. You bought the car and now find out that the choices are limited.... all I can say is due diligence.
Fifth, You don't have to "kingdom" to get it. RMW goes all over the country and now with remote tuning almost available, tuning will be available for you non enthusiasts. (I drove almost 7 hours to get a tune and the weekend before I drove 8 hours just to get an exhaust... point is, I guess it's how bad you want something)
Sixth, better late than ever, go get yourself an RMW tune, you'll be glad you did.
Mark
Second - I agree it doesn't really matter who did at this point but I'd personally still prefer to work with the developer not a second party that has hitched a ride and is the front man and no offense meant. No waiting for answers from the people who made it cause the front man doesn't have the answer/s.
Third - I'm pretty sure you meant to say "not" sure how much demand. So with that said I'm skeptical too because I'll put a deposit down on a flash loader right now but we'll see who ponies up ultimately from the "I swear there's demand" group.
Fourth - I did my homework based on the R53, which is the perfect example. Pretty much everything was available for that Gen. within 3-4 years. Not so here, so your point is way off base.
Fifth - I'm not driving 4-5+ hours and paying for a fuel, dyno time & a tune and then taking a chance on the ride back home. I live in one of the top 3 largest markets in the US. If Jan come to Long Island then its a different story. Until then this should be like any other programming at a minimum. Like for Audi's., BMW's, Nissan's, VW's, etc. This custom tune thing is neat but good staged tunes are all thats needed to start. That is the way all other flashes are done, why should this car be any different.
Sixth - Come to LI Jan and I'll do it your old school way, again no offense meant since its the only way to get it for now.
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The Accessport is so not complex, the canned stage tunes are loaded and then flashed to the ECU. You the owner controls what goes on the ECU and when anytime you want. The feature I talk about with the Accessport is StreetTuner which was an add on when I had my Subie. This is also not complex and its pretty much fool proof because there are hard floors and ceilings that the customer can't pass through and potentially hurt the car.
Have you ever used an Accessport and or StreetTuner?
First- Opinion: I've been at this modding tuning thing since the late 1980's and I've never herd of them. I've had this car since the fall of 1997 and until I herd about Jan's tuning I'd never herd of RMW and I've been on this and other MINI boards since the summer of 2007. Nuff said.
This custom tune thing is neat but good staged tunes are all thats needed to start. That is the way all other flashes are done, why should this car be any different.
Sixth - Come to LI Jan and I'll do it your old school way, again no offense meant since its the only way to get it for now.
Rumm
This custom tune thing is neat but good staged tunes are all thats needed to start. That is the way all other flashes are done, why should this car be any different.
Sixth - Come to LI Jan and I'll do it your old school way, again no offense meant since its the only way to get it for now.
Rumm
I don't even know what to say to that one....You've got to be one of the only people on this board who is begging for a canned flash. There's plenty out there for you, just look around.
Anyone who's been around this "modding tuning thing" so long, such as yourself, should know a live dyno tune or a road tune, is the best possible way to tune and get the most out of the car. And using canned or staged flash tunes are simply "best guess" tunes.
Let me upload a flash tune on my ECU and hope that it works right.....yea no thanks. Not on this car at least, that's for sure.
I've not seen the "time and time again" you refer to, I've made mention of the Accessport before and your the first to reply with a "not happening."
The Accessport is so not complex, the canned stage tunes are loaded and then flashed to the ECU. You the owner controls what goes on the ECU and when anytime you want. The feature I talk about with the Accessport is StreetTuner which was an add on when I had my Subie. This is also not complex and its pretty much fool proof because there are hard floors and ceilings that the customer can't pass through and potentially hurt the car.
Have you ever used an Accessport and or StreetTuner?
The Accessport is so not complex, the canned stage tunes are loaded and then flashed to the ECU. You the owner controls what goes on the ECU and when anytime you want. The feature I talk about with the Accessport is StreetTuner which was an add on when I had my Subie. This is also not complex and its pretty much fool proof because there are hard floors and ceilings that the customer can't pass through and potentially hurt the car.
Have you ever used an Accessport and or StreetTuner?
Even if you did know what to do in theory, you'd be sitting there scratching your head as to why the ECU isn't doing what you told it to do. You have to realize that Subaru ECU's are very simple compared to the MINI R56 ECU. Also, Subaru ECU tuning is all open source...something you'll NEVER see in the MINI/BMW world.If all you want to do is be able to upload pre-made tunes onto your ECU...the remote tuning device will do that. But as far tuning it yourself....not going to happen.
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Are you gonna do it?? I have quite the build planned...and might as well throw a set of cams in the mix as well.
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think the one with little overlap and big lift has my name one it.
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let me know if you are going to pnp,cc ,valve angle ,springs , retainers and bench test your head .I have a shop that does work for me that also does rolex cars,trans am,indy car,nascar and powerboats head work.
Since my warranty is now voided for engine and trans, I may as well do the head route with cam.
Guess I need to start looking into it.
Any suggestions on who to send the head to?
Mark
Guess I need to start looking into it.
Any suggestions on who to send the head to?
Mark
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I can fix you up with a great shop. But why? There must be 5 great shops in the queen city that do nascar and grand am work.
I want someone that specializes in Minis....that's why.
Mark
Phone up Eddie at E2 services(formerly 1FastMINI)
Phone up Eddie at E2 services(formerly 1FastMINI)
Actually, thanks to Chad, I emailed him and we've talked already. I'm going to call him tomorrow and see what I can get going with a head and cams.
Mark
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If the work is done local my guess would be champion or boyd automotive are who he is using to do the work.
schrick is showing the cams for 360 euro while madness and a other retailer are asking 1200 usd.
schrick is showing the cams for 360 euro while madness and a other retailer are asking 1200 usd.
360 euro ~ 535 usd x 2 = 1070 usd....add ~100 usd profit (or just 'healthy' cushion for exchange fluctuations) for Madness and you have your $1200
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You've got to be one of the only people on this board who is begging for a canned flash. There's plenty out there for you, just look around.
Anyone who's been around this "modding tuning thing" so long, such as yourself, should know a live dyno tune or a road tune, is the best possible way to tune and get the most out of the car. And using canned or staged flash tunes are simply "best guess" tunes.
Let me upload a flash tune on my ECU and hope that it works right.....yea no thanks. Not on this car at least, that's for sure.
Anyone who's been around this "modding tuning thing" so long, such as yourself, should know a live dyno tune or a road tune, is the best possible way to tune and get the most out of the car. And using canned or staged flash tunes are simply "best guess" tunes.
Let me upload a flash tune on my ECU and hope that it works right.....yea no thanks. Not on this car at least, that's for sure.
Stop being sooo dramatic :-)
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I didn't mean Accessport is complex...I've heard great things. What I ment was, tuning this ECU is too complex to ever be able to have it "user" tuned. I'd love to see you sit down and look at the eprom and try and tune this ECU.....you're head would spin. And I'd get a good chuckle out of it. Even if you did know what to do in theory, you'd be sitting there scratching your head as to why the ECU isn't doing what you told it to do. You have to realize that Subaru ECU's are very simple compared to the MINI R56 ECU. Also, Subaru ECU tuning is all open source...something you'll NEVER see in the MINI/BMW world.
If all you want to do is be able to upload pre-made tunes onto your ECU...the remote tuning device will do that. But as far tuning it yourself....not going to happen.
Even if you did know what to do in theory, you'd be sitting there scratching your head as to why the ECU isn't doing what you told it to do. You have to realize that Subaru ECU's are very simple compared to the MINI R56 ECU. Also, Subaru ECU tuning is all open source...something you'll NEVER see in the MINI/BMW world.If all you want to do is be able to upload pre-made tunes onto your ECU...the remote tuning device will do that. But as far tuning it yourself....not going to happen.
Rumm