Paul knows better......I already told him not to ask me for anything until he shows me a faster time slip than mine......

 

As my sig says "respect is 1320ft away"

 

1320 times and ofcos able to run for years and years after modding...

 

You right when you say it in salesman talk its not close


But when you say it factually 13.31 v 13.19 it is then when you add 108 lbs to Jove's

Myself and Jove will be having a lot off good battles this year, to say the bench racing / **** taking is out of hand on messenger is an understatement

But hats what its all about haveing a laugh with your mates and finding the incentive to go faster each time you go out.

 

at least we can agree that it's not close

hurry up and go 12s on below 250hhp so you can explain to mynes it doesn't take 350mhp to do it

nice to see you guys have some new trolls on your side

 

Your numbers don't scare me :p

It's going to get to a point of who has the fastest reactions pro stock style

 

I think thats why Jan was scared to bring his drag Mini out, not only could he not beat Hubie horsepower wise (380whp) he couldn't cut a light either what a waste of time and money, it did look so nice as well.

You better order that practise tree from Jegs Jove

 

You better start now old man :p

http://www.speedwaybids.com/trees/tournamenttime.php

 

Trolling comments about false pretense = priceless

 

Morning ladies! nothing I said was trolling. It's knowledge and experience. Just cause I havent made my way to the almighty NAM to waste my time before doesnt mean what I say is trolling or uninformed. I have a new found reason to do it.

the definition of trolling.

Being a ***** on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.

ok so maybe 50% troll. OH OH! Now I have a sig! thanks guys!!

Well, Jan is innocent? I think not. However, yeah, i am a *****. Jan is simply reaping what he sews. Let's just let the show down happen. It should be epic... and in the end. It's all in good competition. Jan knows that.

 

Hubie and Paul,

Since you are both drag racers and Paul is an avid proponent of the drag calculators, I have a question for you both. The drag mini is claimed to make 650HP, and weigh 1800lbs. The drag times published are 10.6 at 135mph according to the post on the home page of this forum.

Using the drag calculators, with 2000lbs. and 650hp the car should be running 8.5 seconds at 160mph. Conversely, if the weight and 10.6 ET are put in the calculator, the estimated HP is only 350.

Is there something here that we may be missing or are the calculators not always accurate?

 

Any amount of wheel spin can cause times to be high especially on a lightweight FWD car. Now if you your in a perfect world like the calculator calculates then yes with the perfect hook up you see 8's.

edit - I have a few friends who are in stock eliminator class and they tell me you want zero slip and perfect R/T if you want to improve your times. Maybe MINI's drag different than any FWD or RWD drag car.

 

Not according to Paul, but I'll wait for Hubie's response.

 

I love how when your troops come to your rescue and annoy people about your products you think it's just fine. The little jan soldiers. So cute. Well, you're not the only one with an army jan.

You have taken allot with out giving credit where credit is due. Your head? Your Cam? what else? I could sit here and list it. But in the end. I dont care. It's competition. Fireball Tim did the same thing. Took peoples hard work and made it seem his own.

All you ever had to do was say where it came from. But that RMW put together the packages. Acting like it's all yours. good ole merican way eh marine?

But! This is a competition thread! Throw down boys. In the end this will all be fun. There will be excuses as always. The fan boys will continue to march forward like in some cheezy 50s gang movie.

I am not here for anything other than a good show and to shed some light on some subjects that just need to be outed.

besides, I have to up my post count

 

MPH is what's not as effected. It takes MUCH more HP to do the times you get from a HP calculator.

I also cant wait for Hubie's answer.

go to a FWD drag event. cars will be going 9.99s at 160 MPH cuase it takes so much power to just making into that bracket.

 

I totally agree. I know that only 650 gets you in to the 10's and 750-850 gets you into the 9's and high 8's on a honda eg hatch factory chassis.

 

With Hubie in it weighed in at 2100lb or was it 2200lb.

Has Jan found those 600hp dyno graphs of 2.0 turbo drag engine yet? Surely he must of sent you a copy Big Howe?

Also you're assuming that you know what combo was racing at the track

 

Hubie must weigh a lot. Even if it is 2200lbs, it should still run 8.8 at 155mph.

I'll wait for Hubie to clear this up.

 

You are kidding right LMAO! You have no idea what it takes to run a sub 10 MINI

 

Supercharge is BETTER!
NO!!
Turbocharge is BETTER!!!
NO!!!!
Supercharge is BETTER!!!!!
NO!!!!!!
Turbocharge is BETTER!!!!!!!

AAHHHHH!!

I can't take it anymore!!
You guys should settle this Ricky Bobby style.
Race a half a lap then RUN to the Finish line!!!
That would be awesome!

 

Is this "calculator" how you figure your whp?

(oh yeah, I am taking a shot... seems very overdue to me.)

 

 

Of course he does, he goes 0-60 in sub 10s on a good day

 

I'm using the same performance calculators that everyone uses to "back up" their numbers. If it's so funny there should be an simple explanation.

 

Do these calculator allow you to put in variables for ground temp, air temp, humidity, altitude, tire pressure, tire temp, and then whatever engine setup. Just sayin but then what do I know, I am just a designer that lives in a little house on the praire.