Drivetrain Big Bore or 2.0 conversion?
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It's been researched - see below.
Last edited by minihune; 10-20-2007 at 11:43 PM.
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I went to your site and do not see that as an option. Something new?
Which MINI is it for? What are the details.
Information on the stroker kit-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=48957
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=51867
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co....php?p=1816366
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I wouldn't think that sleeving/overboring would buy you much, displacement-wise. Even going with a 2.5mm overbore (0.100", which is big) would only take you from 1.6L to 1.7L.
Wouldn't any real displacement gains have to come mostly from stroking the engine?
Wouldn't any real displacement gains have to come mostly from stroking the engine?
#14
Please post your efforts and results and cost of 2.0L stroker kit.
I went to your site and do not see that as an option. Something new?
Which MINI is it for? What are the details.
Information on the stroker kit-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=48957
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=51867
I went to your site and do not see that as an option. Something new?
Which MINI is it for? What are the details.
Information on the stroker kit-
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=48957
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=51867
My policy is to not put it on the website until I am 100% done testing. It does work wonderfully.... some would call it tasty
#15
Your the man Jan, always liked your style and still do
Last edited by norm03s; 10-20-2007 at 09:26 PM. Reason: no stickers or fanboi here, He's allways been a straight shooter
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Jan stopped by to revise/update my tune. I have RMW head and first go at ECU tune. His revised tune seems to have cured a problem regarding the delay in the engine slowing down when lifting off the throttle. This issue is common to 2003 MCS. Car is smooth and fast now.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
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I can understand your policy about fully testing products but since there are no 2.0L strokers in my area then there can be no way for me to see what can be done. (except by reading about it)
So why not post that you are working on it and you expect it completed... or if you cannot say when then say so.
Seems like from what has been posted, significant benefit potential is possible, now we will wait on the total price for the kit plus installation.
#18
2.0 L MINI? Yes, it's been done more than once.
Yes, it is possible.
Hopefully it will be for sale in the future.
You know who to contact. Ask if your mods done already would be in any conflict with the 2.0L upgrade. Would anything need to be removed or further upgraded to make full benefit of the 2.0L kit.
Have fun
#19
How am I supposed to know what you are doing unless you leak at least partial information? If I am in the dark then others are as well. Look at the threads I was able to find by searching using "2.0L stroker".
I can understand your policy about fully testing products but since there are no 2.0L strokers in my area then there can be no way for me to see what can be done. (except by reading about it)
So why not post that you are working on it and you expect it completed... or if you cannot say when then say so.
Seems like from what has been posted, significant benefit potential is possible, now we will wait on the total price for the kit plus installation.
I can understand your policy about fully testing products but since there are no 2.0L strokers in my area then there can be no way for me to see what can be done. (except by reading about it)
So why not post that you are working on it and you expect it completed... or if you cannot say when then say so.
Seems like from what has been posted, significant benefit potential is possible, now we will wait on the total price for the kit plus installation.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...0&ppuser=36227
guess the search engine doesn't work to well
this engine will work in either car.... cooper or S
I will have a big rotrex kit for both soon
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I know this is a foreign concept for the MINI community to fully test before turning on the PR machine, but there's a reason companies keep things quiet during R&D - this can vary from the point I made above to the M62 debacle with M7 and DDM.
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Jan stopped by to revise/update my tune. I have RMW head and first go at ECU tune. His revised tune seems to have cured a problem regarding the delay in the engine slowing down when lifting off the throttle. This issue is common to 2003 MCS. Car is smooth and fast now.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
glad to see the scroll down is working better
#22
why do you need to know? any interested party can contact Jan for info. If he doesn't want to post here....that's his prerogative. He's obviously got time, $$ and labor tied up...and he's in business. Not a mental leap to realize he wants to keep a competitive edge....
I know this is a foreign concept for the MINI community to fully test before turning on the PR machine, but there's a reason companies keep things quiet during R&D - this can vary from the point I made above to the M62 debacle with M7 and DDM.
How does one know what is in R&D when a question does come up?
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Jan stopped by to revise/update my tune. I have RMW head and first go at ECU tune. His revised tune seems to have cured a problem regarding the delay in the engine slowing down when lifting off the throttle. This issue is common to 2003 MCS. Car is smooth and fast now.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
However, Jan has caused me some real sadness. He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats.
If I had that car, I don't think I'd keep my license for long.
Jan is a stickler for getting things right, and his customer service cannot be beaten.
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#24
I had an opportunity to ride in this monster at the track on Hoosers. We were pulled on nearly every car there, including an Ariel Atom, and Jan was short shifting . The 2.0's got so much power it's just ridiculous, the torque is instant, you just get slammed back into your seat at every turn .
Even 2.2 L?
The test car was with turbo?
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And as an addendum, at least in the car design/model lineup world: positioning.