Drivetrain Big Bore or 2.0 conversion?
and a third possibly more important one....CAFE. bigger motors take more fuel. keep in mind many countries levy tax by displacement. 1.6L is very common in other markets.....the MINI needs to be competitive there and it's probably as much about this as anything.
MINI could have made 1.6L for the world and 2.0 L for the US, Ha!
The test car is a MINI GP with the El D head, stroker kit, custom cam, and exhaust, the car is partially tuned, though there's more work to be done from what I understand. He's still running the stock JCW pulley and intake.
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...He allowed me to drive his 2 L stroker GP. With my (34 yr. old) son as a passenger, we took it for a spin.
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats...
Good grief that car is AWSOME fast!! It was way too fast to take past 6000 RPM. Fastest car I ever drove. And with Cross suspension, it was on rails, even with runflats...
I had an opportunity to ride in this monster at the track on Hoosers. We were pulled on nearly every car there, including an Ariel Atom, and Jan was short shifting
. The 2.0's got so much power it's just ridiculous, the torque is instant, you just get slammed back into your seat at every turn
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. The 2.0's got so much power it's just ridiculous, the torque is instant, you just get slammed back into your seat at every turn
Please don't be offended, but after driving that car and getting back into a 220 hp. MCS, it's like returning to life before you had sex. Instant torque.
My rectopuckometer says 300 hp. and 250 ft. lb. tq. But it has not been calibrated.
on 91 octane?!!
What was also amazing was how quick it revved. Lightened crank and light flywheel. Clutch took some getting used to, but it was as easy to depress as stock.
My rectopuckometer says 300 hp. and 250 ft. lb. tq. But it has not been calibrated.
on 91 octane?!!
What was also amazing was how quick it revved. Lightened crank and light flywheel. Clutch took some getting used to, but it was as easy to depress as stock.
Please don't be offended, but after driving that car and getting back into a 220 hp. MCS, it's like returning to life before you had sex. Instant torque.
My rectopuckometer says 300 hp. and 250 ft. lb. tq. But it has not been calibrated.
on 91 octane?!!
What was also amazing was how quick it revved. Lightened crank and light flywheel. Clutch took some getting used to, but it was as easy to depress as stock.
My rectopuckometer says 300 hp. and 250 ft. lb. tq. But it has not been calibrated.
on 91 octane?!!
What was also amazing was how quick it revved. Lightened crank and light flywheel. Clutch took some getting used to, but it was as easy to depress as stock.
FWIW a lightened flywheel will work wonders on any MCS, even the 1.6. Having never driven the stroker I can't comment on it's throttle response. I have driven Danny's car quite a few times though and I can assure you, that thing goes. Not only does it go, but the throttle response is ridiculous
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BTW I think my next mod is the Lighten fly wheel and maybe an 06 tranny if I can keep my cruise control
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
Mario don't do it remember your budget 

That is crazy!!!! I think it was last year when that Castle was up for sale. I hope Pepperdine survives the fires, they are one of my customers. I pray the fire is put out quickly.
BTW I think my next mod is the Lighten fly wheel and maybe an 06 tranny if I can keep my cruise control
BTW I think my next mod is the Lighten fly wheel and maybe an 06 tranny if I can keep my cruise control
Thats right "The Budget". But I have no kids, can't I do what I want?
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I think the more interesting question is whether or not it makes any sense, given the likely cost. (I mean, besides the satisfaction of having a longer sig than the next guy, which is.. priceless I guess.
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it all depends on what you want and how fast do you want to go
there is no comparison between it and a 1.6L engine
I know that a SRT-4 Neon's engine block was made in the same factory that ours was. They got a 2.4l, I think there has been some of those swaps, but it has been a while. I am pretty sure they had the same "blueprint" though(that is what all of the posts talked about with those swaps).
Yea, it's not quite that extreme, he's still running the stock M45, it's the torque curve that you're feeling, not the HP. He's probably pushing 250 WHP and 210-220 ft/lbs of torque. The blower is the bottleneck at this point. Once he gets the rotrex on there, it's a whole different ball game
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FWIW a lightened flywheel will work wonders on any MCS, even the 1.6. Having never driven the stroker I can't comment on it's throttle response. I have driven Danny's car quite a few times though and I can assure you, that thing goes. Not only does it go, but the throttle response is ridiculous
FWIW a lightened flywheel will work wonders on any MCS, even the 1.6. Having never driven the stroker I can't comment on it's throttle response. I have driven Danny's car quite a few times though and I can assure you, that thing goes. Not only does it go, but the throttle response is ridiculous

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When you say no comparison, you're talking about torquey gruntness? Sounds good. We're all working with such a puny engine – it's odd that it's taken so long to viably increase displacement here.
I do hope you'll be back around Philly / northeast next spring.
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I do plan on coming back as soon as possible .
those cheese steaks are killer
I know that a SRT-4 Neon's engine block was made in the same factory that ours was. They got a 2.4l, I think there has been some of those swaps, but it has been a while. I am pretty sure they had the same "blueprint" though(that is what all of the posts talked about with those swaps).
Do you have any more info? I haven't been able to find any info about successful swaps.
Ahh, I've bin building my car in phases. The last phase was major engine work. I thought i would be building a strong 1.6. Now I see I need to save up alot more money and build a 2.0 mini. I'm drooling at the thought already.




