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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cudda_Kine
I live on Maui lol, not Oahu. I've ordered the 15x10 et12 (6"Backspace) White Diamond Racing Wheels two days ago. I'm looking for tires now. Will it be "more legal" if i get 205's and stretch them? Since that's what europe does to pass legal laws. If not, then i'll just get the 225/45's.
Still closer to HF4 than me lol

I really hope those steelies work out for you. If they clear the brakes I'll sell my wheels this week and get myself a set of 15x8s.

Also watch your front struts cause you'll probably be making contact with those if you're gonna try and run 10s up front.

I dont think we have the same "poke" laws that europe has, I'd still stretch though. You're reeeeeally gonna have to lower your car to pull off the look IMO.

If it was my car I would run a 205/45

 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Lol thanks, all of you. Yes i thought so. Running 205/45 will let me lower my car more than running 225/45's. The rims should be coming anytime next month (2 weeks to make rims, 10-12 days for shipping). I can't believe i was thinking about getting 205/55 since someone on craigslist is selling 'em for $20ea. It would be way too tall IMO.
Anyways, here's a video of someone stretching 205/50's on 15x10's...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...l3pLlfHXiHOgTg

Cheetah Stretch FTW! ;-)

EDIT: Oh ya, someone asked me about joining Maui SCCA (AutoX Racing) since i'll be getting such wide tires. Maybe i should get 225's than the 205's? A little more on the safe side for fast turns.

and if the rims don't fit over the calipers? I could just use spacers right? Lol, spacers on 15x10s. Someone told me that if they don't fit, they will buy them for the price i payed. Then maybe i'll try 16x10's w/ 205/35's (Only if i can't get the 15's working). :-)
 

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Get stock in wheel bearings, you are going to be going thru them monthly.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Really?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Yep. You are shifting the load off to one side of the bearing.

Stock wheels load the bearing in the center, equally. A little is alright. When you start putting excessively wide wheels with improper offsets on, you wear other parts.

Front bearings are about $200 each, rears are about $170 each. I would budget for one full set. They could fail faster depending on miles. You are wearing them exponentially faster.

Gotta pay to play.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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LOL, you're the second person to tell me that today! "Gotta pay to play"

On http://forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthre...=599053&page=4

Anyways, what's going to happen when it fails?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Its the truth. Just be ready to spend some money to fix things as they fail. Its part of the game.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:47 AM
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What's going to happen when it fails though, grinding sounds?

EDIT: Anyways, after i get my wide wheels, i'd like to get a shop to make me a body kit that looks just like this...

Fricken' Sick!!!
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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Are you planning on lowering it at all?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Yes i want to lower it. That's why i'm getting 205's instead of 225's.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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You do realize you're going to be poking over a 1/2" (15.7mm) more than this, right?

 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Yup. Ever since i've seen that Blue Autocross Mini, My 16x8's weren't wide enough lol. And hopefully, a shop could make my car look just like the yellow one above^^^, but a r50 version.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cudda_Kine
Yup. Ever since i've seen that Blue Autocross Mini, My 16x8's weren't wide enough lol. And hopefully, a shop could make my car look just like the yellow one above^^^, but a r50 version.
Just FYI, I would expect a shop to charge in the ballpark of $4000 for a widebody conversion just for the body work.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
Yep. You are shifting the load off to one side of the bearing.

Stock wheels load the bearing in the center, equally. A little is alright. When you start putting excessively wide wheels with improper offsets on, you wear other parts.

Front bearings are about $200 each, rears are about $170 each. I would budget for one full set. They could fail faster depending on miles. You are wearing them exponentially faster.

Gotta pay to play.
agreeing with rick + don't forget about axles too.

i don't think 15x10's will be nimble enough to be in competitive autox.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Stop raining on this parade. I want to see this happen. Do eeet Cudda.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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No one is telling him not to do it. We are just giving him information that relates to what he is trying to do. He is doing something pretty extreme, he should be informed.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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I kinda want to meet the guy who can mount a 205/45R16 on a 10" wheel and get it to not debead on a near weekly basis. Hell, I really just wanna meet the shop that will do it. That is so far and away outside of the recommended rim widths they are just inviting a lawsuit.

I cant imagine trying to get a 205/XX on a 10" wide wheel even with a Cheetah. Even with a super soft sidewall, ala most Michelins it would be a serious ***** to get them to bead up...and I have mounted an absolute *** load of 155/80R13s on 13X7" wheels.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nein51
I kinda want to meet the guy who can mount a 205/45R16 on a 10" wheel and get it to not debead on a near weekly basis. Hell, I really just wanna meet the shop that will do it. That is so far and away outside of the recommended rim widths they are just inviting a lawsuit.

I cant imagine trying to get a 205/XX on a 10" wide wheel even with a Cheetah. Even with a super soft sidewall, ala most Michelins it would be a serious ***** to get them to bead up...and I have mounted an absolute *** load of 155/80R13s on 13X7" wheels.




http://www.tyrestretch.com/10_205_45_R15/
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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I dig a little stretch but that looks like crap...and it goes to my point, it must SUCK to get that to bead up. I guess it's cool to be able to say you did it, however.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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I wouldnt even call that a very "extreme" stretch. Pretty normal to me lol. IMO 205s on a 10 is pure SEX.

You either love it, hate it, or love to hate it.

This is pretty extreme. 165/40 on a 15x9

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Also, why does everybody who isn't into stretch think stretched tires are unsafe?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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I've decided to get 225's since they recommended it. It's still going to have some stretch so it should look good. Tires coming in Wednesday & rims are coming in sometime next month. The tires are hankook 225/45/15 btw. :-P

They showed me a train horn in action when I was @the shop. Fricken' loud! Lol. That might be my next purchase after the coilovers.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Just thought I'd post up my 16x9s with 205/45/16 Falken 512s stretched over them.

ATTENTION ALL HATERS, COME COMPLAIN ABOUT MY "UNSAFE" SET-UP!



 
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Puma... your ride is looking mucho bueno with the keskins.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Not wide enough!! Haha nah looks good!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Any wider would either not fit or look ridiculous on mine. Once you get that wide body it'll be sick. Until then though... Let's just say I'm anxious to see how it works out!
 
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