Suspension Webb Motorsports Extreme Swaybar
I learn something...
Originally Posted by jfunkmd
Don't forget coilover or spring setup has a role(pun intended) in this too. My H&Rs dont' allow much body roll at all, so maybe adding a front bar would make my car handle "flatter" but induce more 4 wheel drift, than oversteer.....
who knows, bedtime for me too
who knows, bedtime for me too

Wms...
Originally Posted by katmeho
whoa....
oposite lock anyone...
is that you or someone else? Is that a Lotus advert on the hood?
oposite lock anyone...
is that you or someone else? Is that a Lotus advert on the hood?
Originally Posted by CynMini
sells stuff for Lotus cars. My next car- Lotus Exige! Ok, goodnight for real this time!
-Brian
Isn't there a...
Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
You havn't felt acceleration until you have driven a turbocharged elise! Give us a call if your interested.
-Brian
-Brian
Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
You havn't felt acceleration until you have driven a turbocharged elise! Give us a call if your interested.
-Brian
-Brian
I wish I was smaller so I could fit in an elise
Originally Posted by ///ACS330Ci
Sorry for going off topic, but do you have any more pics of that car?
There was a thread about the car: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=33215
The honda-tech forum that is linked had some great pictures, which unfortunately seem to be no longer online.
Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
You havn't felt acceleration until you have driven a turbocharged elise! Give us a call if your interested.
-Brian
-Brian
Ive got an S1 with the Honda/ JR SC (round 300bhp) and I can pretty much keep it with the Porsche Cup Car guys. Plus its road legal...well in my country anyway
Originally Posted by marvinthemanic
Do you do an S2 turbo conversion? Standard engine or totally new?
Ive got an S1 with the Honda/ JR SC (round 300bhp) and I can pretty much keep it with the Porsche Cup Car guys. Plus its road legal...well in my country anyway

Ive got an S1 with the Honda/ JR SC (round 300bhp) and I can pretty much keep it with the Porsche Cup Car guys. Plus its road legal...well in my country anyway

It will stay dead even with a 05 GSXR 750 from a stop(on a track of coarse).
OK, now stay on topic!
-Brian
Originally Posted by rkw
More photos here: http://www.baybridgemotors.com/Photo...et_1/index.htm
There was a thread about the car: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=33215
The honda-tech forum that is linked had some great pictures, which unfortunately seem to be no longer online.
There was a thread about the car: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=33215
The honda-tech forum that is linked had some great pictures, which unfortunately seem to be no longer online.
Wurd
Thats sick. I need to meet up with those boys at Bay Bridge...
Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
No, basically everything but. The internals are not touched, but the kit includes intake, manifold, exhaust, ecu, injectors, intercooler(with idle fan and uber-trick ducting), and optional gauges/accusump. It runs 275hp without a tune.
It will stay dead even with a 05 GSXR 750 from a stop(on a track of coarse).
OK, now stay on topic!
-Brian
It will stay dead even with a 05 GSXR 750 from a stop(on a track of coarse).
OK, now stay on topic!
-Brian
Originally Posted by CynMini
How reliable??
Basically, you have to be smart with it. It isn't like our rock of a motor
.-Brian
Originally Posted by XAlfa
Jacques is cool. But I thought you said earlier that you knew them... 

Ive never actually met or hung out with them...
Sounds like they are even cooler in real life
The guys at BBM are cool and understand the MINI and our needs. I had them install my suspension parts and am very happy with their work.
Come to the pulley party on 5/27 and meet them.
Come to the pulley party on 5/27 and meet them.
Extremely Happy
I'm just back from the Peru National Tour and I'm extremely happy with the Webb Extreme Bar I put on about a week ago. The Webb bar replaced an early 20.6mm RDR/Helix bar. The car felt very planted and linear. I think at least part of this was the elimination of any give in the sway bar bushings. It was also very easy to adjust. I still think the Webb bar needs more wall thickness if it is to be used with any upgraded front bar.
On a side note I travel to and from my long distance autocrosses on some OEM 15" Take Off's and prior to the, easy to adjust, Webb Bar I just left the bar in it's normal autocross position. While my regular street wheels and tires felt good like this, the OEM 15's felt Extremely loose. The easy fix for this is now to just back way off on the sway bar stiffness when I change my tires.
On a side note I travel to and from my long distance autocrosses on some OEM 15" Take Off's and prior to the, easy to adjust, Webb Bar I just left the bar in it's normal autocross position. While my regular street wheels and tires felt good like this, the OEM 15's felt Extremely loose. The easy fix for this is now to just back way off on the sway bar stiffness when I change my tires.
Originally Posted by jlm
Meb: what is your take about an asymmetric setting, Left vs Right?
my think is this: say L is shorter than Right (L<R)...compressing the LS gives a compression lever arm of L, but that applies less torque to the R thus compensating. same logic if you taklk about twist angle.???
my think is this: say L is shorter than Right (L<R)...compressing the LS gives a compression lever arm of L, but that applies less torque to the R thus compensating. same logic if you taklk about twist angle.???
The endlinks and the typical bent ends of a bar determine resitance to torque - as I wrote above your question. So if one is shorter it will resist more torque. There are other problems here too, as I let my mind wander about these things. If one link is a lot different in length, threshold brakaing and accelerating could be a little interesting; the bar will twist asymetrically in either case...I wouldn't find this funny under threshold braking. Finally, if the bar is not set in the horizontal position at ride height - in other words the bar ends are pointing up or down, as the bar twists, the endlinks no longer transmit or resist force in vertical - the forces become tangential. To my way of thinking, this robs the swaybar of its potential resistance...unless you plan to dilute its action or strengthen it with an up or down orientation to fine tune balance. This is also true for in the first example where one link is shorter than the other; in this case we have asymetric twist, and, non-vertical resistance or transmission of force.
I know plenty of folks set bars in different ways. I'm simply triggering some thinking here...know what you are doing and why. Understand the benefit(s) and the trade-off(s).
Tis not installed yet - this weekend hopefully. The stock bar's orientation is slightly down and I'll begin with that. This is probably a compromise - like many. I'll also have all the springs and dampers out too...I can check for contact so long as I can simulate ride height correctly...
EDIT: ride height doesn't matter. I can check the full range of motion so long as I can bend the bar without knocking the car off the jacks.
EDIT: ride height doesn't matter. I can check the full range of motion so long as I can bend the bar without knocking the car off the jacks.


