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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Whats that clunk?

Took the car for a ride and it seems to handle very nice even though I'm sure the balance of the car is way out of whack. I hope my corner balance guy knows what he's doing.

When I hit bumps, there is a very loud clunk, clunk, clunk coming from the rear of the car. Very noticable. Very loud. Almost sounds like the suspension is bottoming out. Do you think this is the result of the Megans or the Alta control arms that I installed? The rear of the car is set about 1/2" - 3/4" lower than stock. Dampers are set to 14 clicks from full hard.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by waldvogelmj
Took the car for a ride and it seems to handle very nice even though I'm sure the balance of the car is way out of whack. I hope my corner balance guy knows what he's doing.

When I hit bumps, there is a very loud clunk, clunk, clunk coming from the rear of the car. Very noticable. Very loud. Almost sounds like the suspension is bottoming out. Do you think this is the result of the Megans or the Alta control arms that I installed? The rear of the car is set about 1/2" - 3/4" lower than stock. Dampers are set to 14 clicks from full hard.
It sounds like he might have used the spring adjustment instead of the height adjustment to balance the weights which left a spring with no preload and loose enough to bounce around. Check out posts #155 and beyond in this thread for more info on this possibility.

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SRTech
It sounds like he might have used the spring adjustment instead of the height adjustment to balance the weights which left a spring with no preload and loose enough to bounce around. Check out posts #155 and beyond in this thread for more info on this possibility.

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I haven't had it corner balanced yet. There has been no height adjusting done with the spring adjustment. I measured 163 mm between the spring perches on the right rear. You had said earlier that you were at 175 mm. Maybe I went too tight? I'll drop it back to 175 mm and see what happens.

I'm thinking I may have rattling in the drop links. If I install one side while on the ground so that there is no preload on the swaybay, won't I have a sloppy connection of that end link to the trailing arm?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Once the spring perches are set, they do not need to be touched again - tighten these just enough to keep the springs from losing contact with the perches at full droop. Then, use only the height adjustment for adjusting height.

I'll bet the clunking you're hearing is coming from a loose nut on top of the assembly - either you did not tighten this all the way AND with the use of an allen or it came loose adjusting ride hieght after the install. In either case, the allen key must be used along with a wrench to tighten these two together. There should be an inch or slightly more of exposed threaded pistion sticking out of the top of the rear assembly.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by meb
There should be an inch or slightly more of exposed threaded pistion sticking out of the top of the rear assembly.
An inch? Sh*t! I guess I'm pulling the rears out tomorrow. Did you screw two nuts onto the top of each assembly?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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another thing that might cause clunking is the sway bar drop links (oem ones) if they arent tightened all the way.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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Yes. Keep turning the nut until there is obvious resistance, then use the supplied allen key and your wrench to lock the two together. Done. I had to do this at the track a couple of weeks ago; these nuts came loose after the corner balancing. I knew they were loose but figured once I began to hear the dampers moving around with my helmut on I should fix them.

Somehow this nut is coming loose when adjusting ride height. No a big deal for me...ride height is set once, maybe twice a year.

Taking both out should only take you an hour, no biggy.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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I want either coil-overs or springs, and the latter seem to have problems over time... So coil-overs sound like the better option, and you Megan types seem the best to answer a question for me...

Would you recommend the Megan Coil-overs for a suspension novice?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Sure, for anyone. However, these are linear rate springs. The fronts are 80lb/ft heavier than stock and the rears 100lb/in or so heavier than stock. They are comfortable for what they are. The Megan are also an incredible value. If you have an HK amp, adjusting the right rear damper is difficult, but I'm working on a fix that I think will fine for most. Stay tuned.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by meb
I'll bet the clunking you're hearing is coming from a loose nut on top of the assembly - either you did not tighten this all the way AND with the use of an allen or it came loose adjusting ride hieght after the install. In either case, the allen key must be used along with a wrench to tighten these two together. There should be an inch or slightly more of exposed threaded pistion sticking out of the top of the rear assembly.
Problem solved. I didn't tighten the top down far enough. The red piece (the piece that they had redesigned) was not snug down where it was supposed to rest. When I look at it again, I'm an idiot for how I had the thing put together. Now I have about an inch of thread sticking up past the top nut. No more cluncking noise.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Speaking of spring rates, has anybody gotten the heavier springs that were supposed to originally come with the kit???

Have those been shipped? Is that still happening?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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I know Steve is working on a track-only set - from his mouth to my ears. I don't know anything else.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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I've been wondering about that too. If you check Outmotoring's site they still say they're 400......as they have since they first listed them.

Hey Steve (Megan Racing), are you shipping different spring rates through different vendors or are the Outmotoring folks confused?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by meb
I know Steve is working on a track-only set - from his mouth to my ears. I don't know anything else.
Sounds familiar, but Thameth is asking about the original group buy post conversation we had with Dan (Pilo). Pilo announced the 400/400 rates and there were immediately "suggestions" from many of us that they should be a bit less stiff (for cars used mostly on the street, etc). He ended up telling us about the compromise they ship today but saying also that we would be able to order an additional set of the original 400/400 rate springs if we wanted to.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Whaaaaaaaaaaa?!

Originally Posted by kurvhugr
I've been wondering about that too. If you check Outmotoring's site they still say they're 400......as they have since they first listed them.

Hey Steve (Megan Racing), are you shipping different spring rates through different vendors or are the Outmotoring folks confused?

Whoa whoa whoa... different spring rates?! This is the first time I've heard bout this one. Who said what to who bout what now?! I'm working on a Track-Series, but I need to start a thread about what spring rates would be worthwhile for you guys.

But seriously.. who said this?!
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Megan Racing
Whoa whoa whoa... different spring rates?! This is the first time I've heard bout this one. Who said what to who bout what now?! I'm working on a Track-Series, but I need to start a thread about what spring rates would be worthwhile for you guys.

But seriously.. who said this?!
Pilo said that the original kit was supposed to have 400/400 spring rates. But then when he changed it he said he would make the 400/400 availible to the more hard core crowd shortly after the kit release.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Yup, and like I said, check out Outmotoring's site; they still list them at the same rate Pilo originally advertised here - 400/400.

At the time I figured it made perfect sense. After all, if the 400/400 springs were available in the first place it would be a simple deal to make a set of them available as an optional extra.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Here is the original thread where it was all discussed:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ighlight=megan
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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I Apologize...

Originally Posted by Thameth
Pilo said that the original kit was supposed to have 400/400 spring rates. But then when he changed it he said he would make the 400/400 availible to the more hard core crowd shortly after the kit release.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan....

*long pause*

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan...

Aright, well I apologize for any miscommunications that may of have occured between the people who represent Megan Racing through means of distribution. The spring rates for the street series will remain a subtle 5Kg Front and 6Kg Rear (Linear). I will be under development for a Track Series Damper which will feature a greater Spring Rate (has not been chosen yet). And the current setup can be fitted with an 6Kg Frong and 8Kg Rear which I will have available for you guys in the near future.

Once again... I apologize.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Hi steve aka Megan!

I just read through this post and it's had a three week pause. What's the latest on the coilovers? Are the new cable adjusters going to be offered? Will they get around the HK amp? Are pillow ***** coming to the rears? So far I have really liked what I have read!
Thanks,
Shawn
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Updates...

Originally Posted by CynMini
I just read through this post and it's had a three week pause. What's the latest on the coilovers? Are the new cable adjusters going to be offered? Will they get around the HK amp? Are pillow ***** coming to the rears? So far I have really liked what I have read!
Thanks,
Shawn
For some odd reason my subscription for this thread stopped, dunno why.

Either way, sorry for the delay.

So this weekend I was at the Mini Dealership getting my MCS serviced and I priced out a few things. End links, Rear mounts just to start. Expect these parts to begin development in the near future.

The extension ***** are in and available on our website in three different lengths. 110mm, 200mm and 250mm. Of course they can easily be trimmed down to size for you guys to customise.



The rear 8Kg springs are now available on the website. However, the 6Kg springs will be coming in later on for the fronts as well. We have an 8Kg spring that will fit but the dampers have to be set between 24-32 for them to still be in tune for the front. These too are available on the website.
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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D'oh!

I REALLY gotta pay attention to what name I log onto.

The above post was mine just in case there was any confusion.
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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what kind of rebuild or after-purchase plan is there (if any)? Does it apply to all companies that sell your stuff (as legit distributors)
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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what kind of rebuild or after-purchase plan is there (if any)? Does it apply to all companies that sell your stuff (as legit distributors)
Rebuilds cause downtime, so instead we offer cylinder replacments. We ship you out new cylinders. We don't do custom valving though, unfortunately.

Within the first year, the cylinder replacments are free but we require you to ship your old ones back within 15 days of recieving the replacments.

After the first year, it's only $75.00 per corner for replacment cylinders. No core required.

We entrust that all of our distributors will represent our company properly. If there are any discrepancies.. if anyone gives you a hard time for any reason what so ever, let us know and we will take care of our customers. Our biggest concern is the customers, ya kno?
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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$75.00 a corner is less than a typical re-build Nice.
 
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