R56 Things you didn't know about your R56 MINI
Thats the funniest thing I've read all morning. Is that what your service department actually told you??
It is for ventilating the glove compartment. I guess they don't want it to get moldy in there.
Where did you hear that? When you drop zingers like that you really need to provide the source.
Ah, pizza seat. I knew there was a reason for getting heated seats in California.
. Bluetooth is a standard for wireless communication such as TCP/IP is a standard for network traffic. Any bluetooth phone will work in a Mini and will not cause issues. There are really only two questions about bluetooth and a Mini:1. Unless you have a phone that has an adapter for the armrest you cannot use the built in docking to charge the phone and use the external antenna (instead of the built in antenna on the phone).
2. Your bluetooth phone may have some features disabled by your carrier thus not allowing it to transfer it's phone book to your Mini. If this is the case, it is not a problem with the bluetooth on the Mini. It is your service provider restricting the bluetooth capabilities of your phone. Many providers disable features so you have to purchase their software of pay a monthly fee to use services that are built into bluetooth such as file transferring.
That was minicounter who clued me into using the seat to keep food hot.
Last edited by Sowellman; Aug 11, 2007 at 03:44 PM.
This insane phonebook scheme that MINI uses makes no sense, and really makes me wonder if any of the ex employees of Lucas Electric are now working at MINI. This is going to cause a lot of problems for MINI USA...More on that later.
Last edited by Coffeeman; Aug 13, 2007 at 04:17 AM.
My bluetooth setup worked fine for 3 months, then suddenly stopped pairing. The dealer filed a PUMA case with MINI. The response feom MINI was that my phone, a Treo 755p, sends the phonebook to the car every time it pairs. Most Bluetooth phones so this, as well. The MINI's Bluetooth ULF module does not discard the phone book when the car is shut off, unlike BMW's, and all other cars that I am aware of. Because of this, after repeated phone book re-loads, the MINI's ULF memory gets full of all the phonebook entries, and locks up. Resetting it does no good, it is toast at this point. Totally corrupted.
This insane phonebook scheme that MINI uses makes no sense, and really makes me wonder if any of the ex employees of Lucas Electric are now working at MINI. This is going to cause a lot of problems for MINI USA...More on that later.
This insane phonebook scheme that MINI uses makes no sense, and really makes me wonder if any of the ex employees of Lucas Electric are now working at MINI. This is going to cause a lot of problems for MINI USA...More on that later.
My bluetooth setup worked fine for 3 months, then suddenly stopped pairing. The dealer filed a PUMA case with MINI. The response feom MINI was that my phone, a Treo 755p, sends the phonebook to the car every time it pairs. Most Bluetooth phones so this, as well. The MINI's Bluetooth ULF module does not discard the phone book when the car is shut off, unlike BMW's, and all other cars that I am aware of. Because of this, after repeated phone book re-loads, the MINI's ULF memory gets full of all the phonebook entries, and locks up. Resetting it does no good, it is toast at this point. Totally corrupted.
This insane phonebook scheme that MINI uses makes no sense, and really makes me wonder if any of the ex employees of Lucas Electric are now working at MINI. This is going to cause a lot of problems for MINI USA...More on that later.
This insane phonebook scheme that MINI uses makes no sense, and really makes me wonder if any of the ex employees of Lucas Electric are now working at MINI. This is going to cause a lot of problems for MINI USA...More on that later.
Are there phones that don't send the phone book everytime they pair? Sounds to me like a bug in the MINI software, rather than a phone incompatibility. Syncing the type of database in a phone is pretty basic stuff. Are they using a high school student to writer their software? No, wait. A high school student could probably handle it. They are probably using some old guy who is using punch cards, or paper tape.
A similar problem occurred in early BMW ULF modules with BMW assist. The end result was the same...fried Bluetooth module. In my 35 years of driving BMW's, I've always chalked up BMW's poor electronics expertise to their reluctance to letting the Japanese design their gear. This latest Bluetooth fiasco, however, takes the cake.
I was responsible for initiating the successful class action suit against Verizon for their V710 Bluetooth non-disclosure of OPP & OBEX profile disabling, and I am gathering information on MINI's non-disclosure of their flawed Bluetooth implementation...
Last edited by Coffeeman; Aug 13, 2007 at 05:04 AM.
It appears that there are 8 phones that do not send the phone book every time.....the phones that are on the mysterious "MINI approved" bluetooth list. Most Bluetooth deployments have the ULF either ignore duplicate phone book transfers, or in the case of Lexus Denso system, require a manual initial "push" via OPP or OBEX of the phone book. The MINI on the other hand, keeps the phonebook forever. Even if a phone is deleted, the phone book is still there. So, if you get a new phone every year, and your phone(s) are not on the "approved" list, there may come a time when the ULF's memory fills up, toasting your ULF module.
A similar problem occurred in early BMW ULF modules with BMW assist. The end result was the same...fried Bluetooth module. In my 35 years of driving BMW's, I've always chalked up BMW's poor electronics expertise to their reluctance to letting the Japanese design their gear. This latest Bluetooth fiasco, however, takes the cake.
I was responsible for initiating the successful class action suit against Verizon for their V710 Bluetooth non-disclosure of OPP & OBEX profile disabling, and I am gathering information on MINI's non-disclosure of their flawed Bluetooth implementation...
A similar problem occurred in early BMW ULF modules with BMW assist. The end result was the same...fried Bluetooth module. In my 35 years of driving BMW's, I've always chalked up BMW's poor electronics expertise to their reluctance to letting the Japanese design their gear. This latest Bluetooth fiasco, however, takes the cake.
I was responsible for initiating the successful class action suit against Verizon for their V710 Bluetooth non-disclosure of OPP & OBEX profile disabling, and I am gathering information on MINI's non-disclosure of their flawed Bluetooth implementation...
We have not gotten that far yet. Replacing it would simply mean that it would work till the memory gets full, and then it would fail again. We are currently exploring other options...
they get 3 shots to fix it, then lemon law
maybe that will force them to get it right
The MINI on the other hand, keeps the phonebook forever. Even if a phone is deleted, the phone book is still there. So, if you get a new phone every year, and your phone(s) are not on the "approved" list, there may come a time when the ULF's memory fills up, toasting your ULF module.
Don't know. I do start the MINI at least 15 times a day, as I drive a lot to see clients.
Lemon law only applies to things that materially affect the safety or driveability of the vehicle. I doubt a phone book would qualify.





