R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (R56) hatchback discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

R56 obd bluetooth connector

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 03:27 PM
  #1  
genik's Avatar
genik
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Likes: 2
obd bluetooth connector

What specs should i be looking for when making a purchase for an obd bluetooth connector? I have see that they can be sold at different prices, what is the reason for this?
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:25 PM
  #2  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
If you are buying BlueTooth, first thing to know is that it will not work with iDevices.

If you are using a PC or Android you will be fine.

Also they all work about the same.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:32 PM
  #3  
jamez's Avatar
jamez
5th Gear
10 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 962
Likes: 37
From: Stoney Creek, Ontario
Originally Posted by c0op3r
If you are buying BlueTooth, first thing to know is that it will not work with iDevices.
I have a Bluetooth OBDII connector and it is iOS compatible

http://gopointtech.com/products/

Works great
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 04:35 PM
  #4  
genik's Avatar
genik
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by c0op3r
If you are buying BlueTooth, first thing to know is that it will not work with iDevices.
But there are diagnostic apps for the iPhone as well, how do they work? Don't they need bluetooth connectivity?
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:41 PM
  #5  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
Originally Posted by jamez
I have a Bluetooth OBDII connector and it is iOS compatible

http://gopointtech.com/products/

Works great
And that is the ONLY one that is! The cheapo Amazon/eBay units do not work.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:42 PM
  #6  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
Originally Posted by genik
But there are diagnostic apps for the iPhone as well, how do they work? Don't they need bluetooth connectivity?
Buy a WiFi Unit. If you really want to go the distance look at the PLX unit as you can add analog inputs
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:50 PM
  #7  
genik's Avatar
genik
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Likes: 2
WiFi unit?
PLX unit?
Analog inputs?
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:14 PM
  #8  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
OK let me take a moment to write a brief explanation of the wireless OBDII interfaces.

There are several types of OBDII interfaces:

  • Wired - These can be USB, Serial or even stand-alone.
  • BlueTooth - These use the Bluetooth interface, they work fine on PC's, Mac's and Android based hand-held devices. The reason why they do not work on the iDevices, is that Apple wants hardware makers to pay a fee for a chip that interfaces the devices. (GOPoint is the ONLY company that makes a BlueTooth compliant devices).
  • WiFi -Uses the WiFi frequencies & communication profiles. These are the most in-expensive ones if you are using an iDevices. It can also be used on PC and MAC computers.
There are several WiFi based devices, the cheap ELM327 based devices that can be had for 30$ and up. I mentioned the PLX Device it is a WiFibased OBDII reader that has an option to interface analog inputs such as:

  • Fluid Temp
  • Air Fluid Ratio
  • Fluid Pressure
  • Air Intake Temp
  • Exhaust Gas Temp
  • Boost Pressure
At the end of the day, if you have no interest in ever installing any of the analog / external sensors, then just buy one of the ELM327 WiFi Devices from Amazon or eBay, they work fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vehicle-ELM327-Wi-Fi-OBD2-OBDII-WiFi-Car-Diagnostic-Interface-Scanner-For-iPhone-/291101957856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c7075ee0
I am personally running the PLX Kiwi² WiFi interface, with the iMFD analog interface and the SM-AFR Sensor Module.

I use this using an iPhone running DashCommand.

I plan to add the SM-EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) & SM-VAC/Boost (Vacuum/Boost) Sensors in the near future, do you need them no but you can data log using the OBDII sensors and the analog sensors, with the data logged to the iPhone and email your log to yourself and open it on a computer.
 

Last edited by c0op3r; Mar 14, 2014 at 06:26 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 07:18 PM
  #9  
barnoun's Avatar
barnoun
3rd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 7
From: San Francisco, CA
What's the benefit of the PLX when the OBD devices (I have an obdlink mx) read vacuum/boost, AFR, AIT, water temp without having to get separate modules? I use the torque app and it can log as well although I haven't tried it.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:18 PM
  #10  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
Originally Posted by barnoun
What's the benefit of the PLX when the OBD devices (I have an obdlink mx) read vacuum/boost, AFR, AIT, water temp without having to get separate modules? I use the torque app and it can log as well although I haven't tried it.
Well the reason would be that some cars do not have Wide Band O² Sensors, or the factory sensors are not always the most accurate.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:52 PM
  #11  
barnoun's Avatar
barnoun
3rd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 7
From: San Francisco, CA
I see. The refresh rate of the data is probably better with the modules as well huh?
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 11:35 PM
  #12  
genik's Avatar
genik
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by c0op3r
some cars do not have Wide Band O² Sensors, or the factory sensors are not always the most accurate.
Does the R56S have Wide Band O² Sensors?
What are Wide Band O² Sensors for?
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2014 | 11:45 PM
  #13  
barnoun's Avatar
barnoun
3rd Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 7
From: San Francisco, CA
They're used to measure your air/fuel ratio. The one on the mini is pretty accurate, it can be read by the OBD devices. That's why I was wondering why it would be necessary to get a PLX with a wide band module when we can already measure air/fuel ratio.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2014 | 08:28 AM
  #14  
c0op3r's Avatar
c0op3r
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 817
Likes: 8
From: Orlando FL
See I have a R53, and we only have a Narrow Band, so maybe the 2nd gen's dont need the wide band.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PsychoRallye
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
21
Feb 17, 2019 06:08 AM
navybsn
General MINI Talk
4
Oct 5, 2018 04:42 PM
martinb
General MINI Talk
9
Oct 7, 2015 05:00 PM
schr5530
Stock Problems/Issues
7
Oct 5, 2015 08:28 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:49 PM.