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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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I have just finished installing the Silverline DICE kit in my 06 MCS. I went with the front head unit version, and really, the most difficult task was to remove the downtubes and the glove box. And it works great with my DPSM.

Some minor confusion with the iPod config DIP switches though. We set the switches in accordance with the manual, and turned the first one off and the second one on (the default?). After reading some posts in this thread, there seems to be some discrepancies. Our iPod (brand new Nano with the latest firmware) does not allow control over the selections (just has the DICE logo) -- should I be able to control things from either the iPod or the stereo controls?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferroequine
I have just finished installing the Silverline DICE kit in my 06 MCS. I went with the front head unit version, and really, the most difficult task was to remove the downtubes and the glove box. And it works great with my DPSM.

Some minor confusion with the iPod config DIP switches though. We set the switches in accordance with the manual, and turned the first one off and the second one on (the default?). After reading some posts in this thread, there seems to be some discrepancies. Our iPod (brand new Nano with the latest firmware) does not allow control over the selections (just has the DICE logo) -- should I be able to control things from either the iPod or the stereo controls?
On the SILVERLINE, the iPod is locked out in order to gain the additional features it offers over the previous DICE kits.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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I just recieve my SILVERLINE iPod Radio Kit. I had no install issues. The only problem I have now is when I hook up my iPod it automatically goes to Shuffle and Repeat. Any idea on what to do?

Also have 2004 MCS Hardon Kamron system. So I have the first set, Dice, of dip-switches set default, "OFF" and the iPod to "ON-Down" due to the fact I don't have text display.

Thanks in advance
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MNEEME
I just recieve my SILVERLINE iPod Radio Kit. I had no install issues. The only problem I have now is when I hook up my iPod it automatically goes to Shuffle and Repeat. Any idea on what to do?

Also have 2004 MCS Hardon Kamron system. So I have the first set, Dice, of dip-switches set default, "OFF" and the iPod to "ON-Down" due to the fact I don't have text display.

Thanks in advance
For MINI application, we leave them all in the ON position. Do you not want the enhanced DICE features?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tom @ eas
For MINI application, we leave them all in the ON position. Do you not want the enhanced DICE features?
I just realized I have it wrong I believe. I'll try switching them later tonight.

They came all in the OFF position and did not switch them all to the ON position

SO I have the DICE in the OFF Position and the iPod in the ON Position.

I'll switch them later tonight and get back to you on what happens. Thanks!
 

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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I'm currently torn between picking up the trunk interface kit or the radio kit. I did a quick search but didn't see the dimensions of the DICE unit listed anywhere.

I like the idea of having my iPod up front on my parcel shelf (I used to have it set up this way with a Pioneer HU and their iPod kit) but had trouble finding an adequate place to mount the iPod module. It ended up sitting behind the speedo with double-sided tape (that only lasted until the winter).

With the trunk kit has anyone experienced interference or engine noise through the sound system?

Thanks in advance,

Jay
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Zarrik
I'm currently torn between picking up the trunk interface kit or the radio kit. I did a quick search but didn't see the dimensions of the DICE unit listed anywhere.

I like the idea of having my iPod up front on my parcel shelf (I used to have it set up this way with a Pioneer HU and their iPod kit) but had trouble finding an adequate place to mount the iPod module. It ended up sitting behind the speedo with double-sided tape (that only lasted until the winter).

With the trunk kit has anyone experienced interference or engine noise through the sound system?

Thanks in advance,

Jay
Most people leave the iPod in the glovebox, the choice is up to you. IMHO - the radio interface kit is simply easier to install.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Out of the blue, I no longer have a CDC option. Any ideas why the connection to the DICE unit would just stop working?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sranderle
Out of the blue, I no longer have a CDC option. Any ideas why the connection to the DICE unit would just stop working?
Is this a radio-interface or trunk-interface kit?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Radio interface.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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I have the dice system in my 06 Mcs, non h/k. With a 5th gen iPod.

Lately it has started to make the music sound like it is skipping. I have tried to have it reintialize to see if that works. But still seems to have the problem.

This is the one that runs through the OEM Sirius unit.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I have the Silverline...had it installed about 1.5 months now. It has been working great. I did have one issue with it that I called Tom about. About a week ago the unit randomally decided to not show text, I could still skip through songs but the text was completely gone. It was like this for 2-3 days when it randomally worked again and has been fine since.

My only idea as to why, was the temperature here in Abq those days. At nights it would drop into the teens. I thought maybe the unit was just cold, Tom didn't think this would effect it...but either way it is working again now just as perfectly as before.

BTW I have radio interface with the unit mounted with double stick tape on the plastic behind/lower/to the right of the radio. On initial install I adusted the switches as per the instruction manual, a few days later after calling EAS, I learned to leave it how they sent it. So I switched it back and thats how its been ever since.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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This may have been answered somewhere, but I didn't see it when reading through the thread.

It seems the DICE unit takes over the IPOD control. If that is so, can you play podcasts on the IPOD when it is connected to the DICE unit?

If the original works differently from the Silverline, that would be good to understand as well.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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FWIW, I have the latest generation IPOD Nano.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
This may have been answered somewhere, but I didn't see it when reading through the thread.

It seems the DICE unit takes over the IPOD control. If that is so, can you play podcasts on the IPOD when it is connected to the DICE unit?

If the original works differently from the Silverline, that would be good to understand as well.
Podcasts are like any other song - they can be reached via the Artists or Playlists directories.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tom @ eas
Podcasts are like any other song - they can be reached via the Artists or Playlists directories.

Sweet. Sounds like I'll be looking into ordering one of these before the Dragon!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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WTF is up with this KIT!!

So Tom,

Previously, you told me no problem on the Silverline with the NAV in our 05 Convertible (using it without Text). We got the kit installed it, works OK, but not like suggested. (See previous threads)

Well after compromising to be able to at least have the music and no text, we ran into a hiccup this weekend.

While driving through San Francisco, we wanted to find a certain restaurant.. The beauty of having the NAV...

Well to our surprise, the sound of the navigation units voice guidance is NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL WTF TOM!

How is it that your unit is not allowing the sound of the NAV voice through the system, and do you know of this issue? If not, then what can be done? Is there some type of screwy wiring in your harness that does not allow the pass-through of the Nav sound? I need this handled ASAP, and I am NOT looking forward to taking apart my radio...again... for this issue... Get the bugs worked out, and get us folks with NAV a decent product, please.....

Previous thread responses for refreshers....

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Tom,

Your answer was a little misleading.

There is NO CAPABILITY of TEXT ONLY on the radio when you have a NAV system. It is either all or nothing. I do wish you would have been more clear, as we were very content with the text on the radio, but after installing and going through all of the text options on the DICE, there is no possible way to have the text appear only on the radio. Navigation is almost impossible on the DICE if you have NAV, because all the text features have to be off. A little disappointed with my purchase, and I know my wife is kind of let down as well.

Part of my original text above:

but if we do have NAV and are just content with text on the radio itself, can us NAV owner install this without any other interference to the NAV, and will the unit work like we didnt have the NAV and just ignore the display of the NAV?
Not misleading at all - text will need to be turned off if you wish to use NAV. DICE is looking into a way around this, but in the meantime is claiming the kits are not compatible with NAV vehicles.
 

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsdchz
Well to our surprise, the sound of the navigation units voice guidance is NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL WTF TOM!
Take a breath and calm down - There's no need for comments like this.

Originally Posted by Itsdchz
How is it that your unit is not allowing the sound of the NAV voice through the system, and do you know of this issue? If not, then what can be done? Is there some type of screwy wiring in your harness that does not allow the pass-through of the Nav sound? I need this handled ASAP, and I am NOT looking forward to taking apart my radio...again... for this issue... Get the bugs worked out, and get us folks with NAV a decent product, please.....

Previous thread responses for refreshers....
Did you order a radio or trunk interface kit? If you ordered the radio interface, the NAV audio pins will need to be extracted from the original connector and transferred to the exact locations in the new connector. This is the 12-pin connector on the bottom left looking at the back of the radio.

If the trunk interface kit was ordered, this step is unnecessary.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Radio interface was ordered. How come this wasn't something that was told to me either by you based upon the MANY previous posts, or by your company when I stated I had an 05 Convertible with NAV?

Do you have a diagram I can see to get the exact pins and location?

(Sorry posted under my wife's account on her computer)
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XXSML
Radio interface was ordered. How come this wasn't something that was told to me either by you based upon the MANY previous posts, or by your company when I stated I had an 05 Convertible with NAV?

Do you have a diagram I can see to get the exact pins and location?

(Sorry posted under my wife's account on her computer)
No diagram specific to the MINI. Simply look at the original 12-pin audio connector at the back of the radio (bottom left if looking at the readio connector) and extract the pins by pushing down on the barb while pulling on the wire.

Place them into the same pin locations on the DICE harness and your NAV voice will return.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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I have an ipod touch and an 03 cooper with basic radio/cd player. Any problems with DICE working with this?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by asodestrom
I have an ipod touch and an 03 cooper with basic radio/cd player. Any problems with DICE working with this?
Touch will work like any other iPod.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Tom, any thoughts on why my DICE stopped working?

It's still too cold around here for me to disassemble everything.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sranderle
Tom, any thoughts on why my DICE stopped working?

It's still too cold around here for me to disassemble everything.
First step would be to perform a reinitialization. Perform the following steps:

1. Disconnect iPod from cable
2. Remove battery cables, negative first
3. Touch battery cable terminals together (away from battery) for +5 seconds, a small spark is normal as this is stored power draining from the system.
4. Allow cables to remain disconnected for about 5-7 minutes
5. Reconnect battery cables onto battery, negative last.
6. Reboot iPod by pressing on MENU and CENTER buttons for +5 seconds and then reconnecting to the DICE cable after the reboot process is completed.

Let me know if these steps correct the problem
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Got my kit yesterday and installed it with no problems.

Everything works as expected except when I advance tracks they do so randomly. I want them to advance sequentially.

What can I do to fix this?
 
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