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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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I read the directions Tom sent me along with some others on NAM for removing the HU, however, I am having trouble visualizing where the DICE harness goes.

Does it replace the existing radio harness or go in between the existing radio harness and the HU?
The DICE harness plugs inline in-between the MINI radio and wiring harness.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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mine finally came in today. I think I'll install it tonight after golf.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tom @ eas
The DICE harness plugs inline in-between the MINI radio and wiring harness.
Thanks Tom.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Hello Tom,
I bought the Dice unit for my o4 s with the hk radio. Found the plugs taped under the amp that are meant for the cd changer. Ran the wires neatly under the molding, soundproofing the floor along the way. Disconnected the battery and set the dip switches as specified, and get no text or playslists with either my 40 gig or my iphone. On the 40 gig pressing the steering wheel buttons seemed to just randomly start albums. I got fed up and made one 50 song playlist on my iphone and I just skip through them till i get what I want. Can't I get playlists on the head unit? seems kind of feeble compared to the $150. alpine head in my truck with ipod plugged in, I can root all around by album, playlist, artist ect.

Could I have the dip switches wrong? Thanks in advance, Bob
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauiminiguy
Hello Tom,
I bought the Dice unit for my o4 s with the hk radio. Found the plugs taped under the amp that are meant for the cd changer. Ran the wires neatly under the molding, soundproofing the floor along the way. Disconnected the battery and set the dip switches as specified, and get no text or playslists with either my 40 gig or my iphone. On the 40 gig pressing the steering wheel buttons seemed to just randomly start albums. I got fed up and made one 50 song playlist on my iphone and I just skip through them till i get what I want. Can't I get playlists on the head unit? seems kind of feeble compared to the $150. alpine head in my truck with ipod plugged in, I can root all around by album, playlist, artist ect.

Could I have the dip switches wrong? Thanks in advance, Bob
You will need a 2005+ radio for text display.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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So, if I can find a take-off, HK head unit, do you know if it is plug-and-play switch out with the o4 head unit?

If I had known that in advance I most likely would have ripped out the whole system and started fresh with and alpine and some focal speakers...
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauiminiguy
So, if I can find a take-off, HK head unit, do you know if it is plug-and-play switch out with the o4 head unit?

If I had known that in advance I most likely would have ripped out the whole system and started fresh with and alpine and some focal speakers...
Yep - it's a simple Plug and Play.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Can I still ask the Master questions on this, as I am a frustrated user who ordered this on my new 2008 Mini cooper s and does not have ipod controls, except thru the radio head.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cabrown
I read the directions Tom sent me along with some others on NAM for removing the HU, however, I am having trouble visualizing where the DICE harness goes.

Does it replace the existing radio harness or go in between the existing radio harness and the HU?
As I recall, it goes in between. Disconnect the OEM harness, connect the DICE, reconnect the OEM on top of the DICE. Button everything back up.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OleYeller
Can I still ask the Master questions on this, as I am a frustrated user who ordered this on my new 2008 Mini cooper s and does not have ipod controls, except thru the radio head.
I'm assuming this is a Convertible?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Tom, thanks for the email.

so I'm sitting here with the harness, just checking it out, and I decided to trace all of the wires from one connector to the next.

now, there are several wires that are the same color, so I grabbed a meter and did continuity checks.

From what I can tell, out of 16 wires coming out of the connector, all of them go to different locations on the other end!

I was thinking of fixing it myself, but now I think I'll just wait for the replacement part!

edit, now I get it. the wires are 'mirrored' left to right. however, I'm not sure which end is wrong. on the radio end, there are two terminals that have two wires (power and ground for the dice unit). I can't just swap the wires in one end for fear of swapping the wrong end.

If anyone has one of these (that is verfied as working) and could tell me the color of the wires on the radio end by number (the number is on the face of the connector that goes 'in' to the headunit) that would solve the riddle. then I'd just have to figure out how to pop the terminals out and swap them around.
 

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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
Tom, thanks for the email.

so I'm sitting here with the harness, just checking it out, and I decided to trace all of the wires from one connector to the next.

now, there are several wires that are the same color, so I grabbed a meter and did continuity checks.

From what I can tell, out of 16 wires coming out of the connector, all of them go to different locations on the other end!

I was thinking of fixing it myself, but now I think I'll just wait for the replacement part!

edit, now I get it. the wires are 'mirrored' left to right. however, I'm not sure which end is wrong. on the radio end, there are two terminals that have two wires (power and ground for the dice unit). I can't just swap the wires in one end for fear of swapping the wrong end.

If anyone has one of these (that is verfied as working) and could tell me the color of the wires on the radio end by number (the number is on the face of the connector that goes 'in' to the headunit) that would solve the riddle. then I'd just have to figure out how to pop the terminals out and swap them around.
The pins cannot be swapped without a pin extractor - let us exchange it for the correct harness so no damage is done.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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no problem! I just got the RMA information, so it is on the way back!
 
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Sorry if this was covered, do all Mini's have...?

Hey, I'm sorry if this was covered. I don't really have a chance to check 28 pages of posts to find an answer to this.

I have an '06 MC. It has the steering wheel audio controls but I don't know what radio I have. It does not have a changer installed, but do all Mini's have the cables installed just without the changer? I thought I read somewhere once that the cables are there in case you want to add a changer, but I'm not sure.

I'd like to get this DICE system, the one that mounts in the trunk is fine. I would probably prefer to leave my iPod sitting back there anyway as long as I can see descriptions on my radio. I don't know if I have the required components though. Any help on this is appreciated!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by X Skydiver X
Hey, I'm sorry if this was covered. I don't really have a chance to check 28 pages of posts to find an answer to this.

I have an '06 MC. It has the steering wheel audio controls but I don't know what radio I have. It does not have a changer installed, but do all Mini's have the cables installed just without the changer? I thought I read somewhere once that the cables are there in case you want to add a changer, but I'm not sure.

I'd like to get this DICE system, the one that mounts in the trunk is fine. I would probably prefer to leave my iPod sitting back there anyway as long as I can see descriptions on my radio. I don't know if I have the required components though. Any help on this is appreciated!
all minis are pre-wired. you are good to go, I think. You'll know if you have the harmon kardon because the speaker surrounds in the door will say 'harmon kardon'.

I'd get the radio mount. I installed mine in about half an hour (although it is being replaced because of a bad wiring harness). You can run the cable to the glove box and put the ipod there, and the installation is actually easier, I believe.

It looks like a good unit, and the customer service, so far, has been good.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Is there a Dice unit that works with the standard R56 radio yet? If so, can somebody from EAS give me a part number or link. If not, does anyone have a timeline or other suggestion?

Thanks
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
all minis are pre-wired. you are good to go, I think. You'll know if you have the harmon kardon because the speaker surrounds in the door will say 'harmon kardon'.

I'd get the radio mount. I installed mine in about half an hour (although it is being replaced because of a bad wiring harness). You can run the cable to the glove box and put the ipod there, and the installation is actually easier, I believe.

It looks like a good unit, and the customer service, so far, has been good.
All MINI's except the GP.

Thanks for the feedback on the CS.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by lagrasta
Is there a Dice unit that works with the standard R56 radio yet? If so, can somebody from EAS give me a part number or link. If not, does anyone have a timeline or other suggestion?

Thanks
Nothing on the DICE side, but the mObridge iPod kit will work with the new fiber-optic MINIs.

mObridge - iPod integration kit for MINI Cooper
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1653
 
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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I finally got the radio harness installed and the DICE up and running this evening. The most difficult part was making all that extra wiring fit nicely the in the same space. The radio harness is definitely the way to go for high capacity iPods or **** retentive users who must browse via Artist -> Album. I don't know why I ever talked myself into the CD changer cable as a solution. So far, so good...again.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Well, it worked for a minute or two....

Got the replacement harness today. Installed everything, and it was working. I was trying to learn how to navigate through the lists, and then it stopped. I had hit 'disc 5', and it was as if the dice unit was not connected any longer.

I removed the ipod, and when I reconnected it, it did not display the 'dice' logo, and pressing aux on the head unit just goes back and forth between radio and the cd player.

So, I disconnected the battery, removed the dice, reinstalled everything back to normal, and reconnected the battery. Then I started over with the installation, and the unit was working again.

Again, I was navigating through the lists, playing songs, and this time I didn't hit disc 5, but it still stopped playing. shortly after it stopped playing, it lost connection again, i guess.

It is currently sitting all buttoned up in the car, but it isn't responding at all.

I've already paid an extra $14 to return the first defective harness. I hope I don't have to go through this again.

Any idea what is going on?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
Got the replacement harness today. Installed everything, and it was working. I was trying to learn how to navigate through the lists, and then it stopped. I had hit 'disc 5', and it was as if the dice unit was not connected any longer.

I removed the ipod, and when I reconnected it, it did not display the 'dice' logo, and pressing aux on the head unit just goes back and forth between radio and the cd player.

So, I disconnected the battery, removed the dice, reinstalled everything back to normal, and reconnected the battery. Then I started over with the installation, and the unit was working again.

Again, I was navigating through the lists, playing songs, and this time I didn't hit disc 5, but it still stopped playing. shortly after it stopped playing, it lost connection again, i guess.

It is currently sitting all buttoned up in the car, but it isn't responding at all.

I've already paid an extra $14 to return the first defective harness. I hope I don't have to go through this again.

Any idea what is going on?
What was the reason for DISC5? Likely you are in AUX mode.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tom @ eas
What was the reason for DISC5? Likely you are in AUX mode.
If it was in aux mode, wouldn't I be able to select 'cdc' and then disc5 again?

I sent you a longer, more detailed email last night. I don't THINK it is because I pressed disc 5 (I didn't have the manual handy, and was trying to figure out how to play a podcast.) If this is what will happen everytime I accidentally press disc 5, that is a bad thing!

If you get a chance to respond to my email today that would be great.

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
If it was in aux mode, wouldn't I be able to select 'cdc' and then disc5 again?

I sent you a longer, more detailed email last night. I don't THINK it is because I pressed disc 5 (I didn't have the manual handy, and was trying to figure out how to play a podcast.) If this is what will happen everytime I accidentally press disc 5, that is a bad thing!

If you get a chance to respond to my email today that would be great.

thanks!
I will look for your email, expect a reply shortly.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Here's a NEWB question for you guys... I am planning to get an iPod and DICE or HD DICE. I know nothing about iPods. Where can I find info on which model iPod to get?

I don't have any imediate urge to put videos on it
I only own like 50 CD's
If they differ on this, I'd like the most durable iPod.
This will go in an '08 convertible. Where should I put the HD stealth antenna, if I go HD? I'd like for it to be invisible. Does the cloth roof give me more options?

Lastly, some HD questions... I live about 100 miles from Dallas. What is the range on the HD stuff compared to regular FM radio?

Thanks!

Brian
 
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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I don't have any imediate urge to put videos on it
I only own like 50 CD's
If they differ on this, I'd like the most durable iPod.
Get a nano.
It will be a while before you fill it up with songs, and since it uses flash memory rather than a hard disk there is less chance for problems.
 
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