JCW 2020 MINI GP Article
#76
That is the reason I waited for the 2017 Z06! BTW. it will still bite you, but I do love it as well. However, the mini F56 JCW is still my all time favorite automotive toy. If I could only afford a McClaren! GP3 will make a nice second choice!
#77
The X2 is good for daily pose, one the track he faces common SUV problems, like Macan and Co....... obistilces , Idiots.
Mr Gebhards driving skills are not bad ! But the Japan hatch was pushed by hired track specialist.
In 2014 this was a record for FWD the MINI JCW Schirra 7.44 Gebhard, his first try at that day ended with tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RLxUBRsoz0
I also see the GP3 at record level around 7.30, but depends on driver and commitment, Level of commitment follows future weight of GP3
Mr Gebhards driving skills are not bad ! But the Japan hatch was pushed by hired track specialist.
In 2014 this was a record for FWD the MINI JCW Schirra 7.44 Gebhard, his first try at that day ended with tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RLxUBRsoz0
I also see the GP3 at record level around 7.30, but depends on driver and commitment, Level of commitment follows future weight of GP3
Last edited by normtrum; 03-01-2019 at 02:43 PM.
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Clutch Wotan (03-10-2019)
#78
That was a very cool video! Thanks for sharing it. So am I seeing things, or did that guys f56 have a roll cage? Or maybe some sort of a “partial” roll cage? I’ll tell ya what it did show, and that is how much of a physical effort there is when you’re driving a Mini “manual” transmission on a race track. After finishing up on one of my 50 lap auto-x races on the track I can see from my house....I mean I am blown out! It’s a lot of work driving a manual tranny on all the twisties for 130 miles!!
#79
That was a very cool video! Thanks for sharing it. So am I seeing things, or did that guys f56 have a roll cage? Or maybe some sort of a “partial” roll cage? I’ll tell ya what it did show, and that is how much of a physical effort there is when you’re driving a Mini “manual” transmission on a race track. After finishing up on one of my 50 lap auto-x races on the track I can see from my house....I mean I am blown out! It’s a lot of work driving a manual tranny on all the twisties for 130 miles!!
Also, did anyone notice when he get up to full speed the upper edge of the passenger door is sucked outward enough to see some pretty good light out of it...my guess is those are fiberglass or possibly CF doors with the lexan bolt in window 'glass'. That is a purpose built car and not just a warmed up street ride.
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Clutch Wotan (10-09-2019)
#80
Neat video, cool watch and listen. Driving a manual isn't much more than an auto, IMHO. I have always owned a manual tranny car of some sort since I started driving, kind of second nature to me anyway. That car certainly had a full roll cage in it, you can tell by the type of a-pillar uprights and roof bars, that isn't your typical bolt in affair. You can also see the rear x-bars in the end of the video looking through the car.
Also, did anyone notice when he get up to full speed the upper edge of the passenger door is sucked outward enough to see some pretty good light out of it...my guess is those are fiberglass or possibly CF doors with the lexan bolt in window 'glass'. That is a purpose built car and not just a warmed up street ride.
Also, did anyone notice when he get up to full speed the upper edge of the passenger door is sucked outward enough to see some pretty good light out of it...my guess is those are fiberglass or possibly CF doors with the lexan bolt in window 'glass'. That is a purpose built car and not just a warmed up street ride.
The previous GP2 was the base for that
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#82
I would imagine that it will, most likely due to the changes in the emission and noise standards changing for the Eurozone members. GB is already planning to abide by them. I have not heard much concerning the 4th generation, but it will more than likely not be as powerful as the gen 3, once again due to pollution, noise, and pedestrian issues. Times are changing and we are dinosaurs in the new teddy bear world!
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#85
Yes, they have been noticeably silent about the next generation of minis, but all signs point to the impending change. This is really fascinating, particularly with the drop in U.S. sales. They having really been hyping the F series GP. I assume that is because internet chatter is cheap and easy, but they, mini, keep releasing teasers about it periodically. Brexit may be adding to the mini turmoil as well.
#86
Yes, they have been noticeably silent about the next generation of minis, but all signs point to the impending change. This is really fascinating, particularly with the drop in U.S. sales. They having really been hyping the F series GP. I assume that is because internet chatter is cheap and easy, but they, mini, keep releasing teasers about it periodically. Brexit may be adding to the mini turmoil as well.
#87
I don't think that's correct. My F56 JCW was built this year and it was built in Oxford.
#88
Actually, found a leftover 2018 that is a Born F56: https://www.schompmini.com/inventory...xp7c53j3b95327, wonder if that production change to Oxford happened for the LCI.
Do you have a 2019?
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#89
I just read a rumor on facebook that my dealership, Mini of Louisville, may be permanently closing! They are the stepchild of the MB dealership next door to them, but we have had good service and a great relationship with them! However, that shoots down my #1 spot on the list for the new GP! If this is true the closest dealership is in Cincinnati and I have never dealt with them. I sure won't get a premier spot on their list. This is all rumor and innuendo at this point, but it sure has me on edge! I did read an article that San Fransisco Mini is closing. Apparently, times are rougher for USA Mini than I realized!
#90
I just read a rumor on facebook that my dealership, Mini of Louisville, may be permanently closing! They are the stepchild of the MB dealership next door to them, but we have had good service and a great relationship with them! However, that shoots down my #1 spot on the list for the new GP! If this is true the closest dealership is in Cincinnati and I have never dealt with them. I sure won't get a premier spot on their list. This is all rumor and innuendo at this point, but it sure has me on edge! I did read an article that San Fransisco Mini is closing. Apparently, times are rougher for USA Mini than I realized!
#91
Thanks .02, I will contact my mini buddy that works there and see what he has to say as the first order of business. There are 2 BMW dealerships in Louisville, which is about 40 miles from our home, and one in Lexington about 35 miles east of us. If it is indeed true that the dealership is closing it will also be an issue for service as Cincinnati is about 85 miles from here and the traffic in the area is horrendous most days. I have never been to their dealership, but I will try and check it out next week if the weather is decent.
#92
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Chevy and Ford are both dropping cars from their line ups and concentrating on big SUVs and big pickups. MINI has neither of those. People in the States just don’t want small. And they seem to no longer be interested in driving; just let a computer do that for them. Not surprised that MINI is struggling.
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#93
As stated before I am a dinosaur in a techno geek world. I have my ancient Chevy 2500 4 door diesel for the heavy lifting and towing but the largest of the rest of the fleet is a corvette Z06. I would buy a Lotus Elise, but I don't enjoy serious mechanical work anymore, so new toys are the order of the day! But, the mini is my favorite of all time, what a hoot!
#94
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A post with GP3 engine and sound video...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4461037
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4461037
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#97
Yeah, the GP2 weighs a little less than 100 lbs. more than a standard R56. I doubt the GP3 will pack on an additional 800 lbs. over the F56. I'd be shocked if it weighed in over 2900 lbs.
#98
We had a small get together of miniphiles yesterday at Mini of Louisville, and for now it looks rather bleak for the dealership. It is hemorrhaging cash and the owner has not made a decision yet, but advised the staff that all of the employees would be offered positions and the MB dealership next door if the mini dealership is closed. Evidently BMW USA wants no part of mini and will not combine mini with BMW dealers. At present I am hoping that the dealership will hold on until June and I can order the GP thru them. I really like this dealership, they have been great as far as I am concerned.
#100
True, I've been saying that for a long time! I really do wish some BMW dealers will take on the MINI brand however as I am 10 minutes away from our local BMW dealer and well over an hour to 2 hours from both MINI dealers here in PA. Having 2 MINI's it is a bit worrisome if MINI dealers close. Although, I truly believe that the dealers close to large cities/densely populated areas will be the very last to close if they do at all!