I really like the area of the firewall where the battery is located, just behind the air box. But, like I said, the harness is too short. Ideally, if Dinan offered for there generic chip, an extension harness, then one could install the box in a better location without having to replace existing hardware that they have in stock or that they have committed to building by the third party manufacturer.

:D

 

Sorry about the delayed response. It was a hectic last 2 weeks with Monterey Car Week and then the BMW CCA Oktoberfest being local.

When all is said and done the most important part of the install location is that the cables and the harness needs to be secured so it doesn't get shredded by the fan that is directly in front of the sensor. We have no concern over the temperatures as everything in the kit is graded out to withstand ridiculous temperatures. The only potential drawback of the heat is interference with the bluetooth functionality in hurting the range a bit but we have not seen that to be the case thus far on the MINI applications. On the Audis the sensor is right next to the alternator which really challenges the BT signal. =)

Regardless, asked the main developer if he had any alternate locations for those that were concerned about heat and he noted that he really liked how Jobexo did his install (below).

 

the only unit for the US Spec MINI's that has a secondary bung to "trick" emissions is the mario palza downpipe.

otherwise, there's a few out there, but no secondary bung so you'll need a full tune to remove it, something which can't be done with a dinan unit.

 

Thanks for the reply Dinan if you say the unit is fine as is then i will leave it as is. As for the blue tooth i have only had one ocasion were the blue tooth dropped out.

 

Thanks for the reply marco we are just trying the Dinan on my mates car he is using a uk de cat.
i do no of marios parts.
as for the eml light my mate is not bothered.

 

I know of Mariokart downpipe and how it works really well on tricking emission. I believe they have the fitting issue sorted out for F56. Just haven't heard anyone running it on F55 (fitting could be slightly different, a task I'm not ready to tackle).
What I like about the Dinan and Nm is the simplicity behind it (plug and play) If I ever need anything "coded out" it will be after warranty and when I also go Full Tune, that would be a while.
From my experience, the NM module was hot to the touch when I tried switching modes at a gas station. I'm sure it's from the casing doing its job keeping the heat from effecting anything inside. Same goes for Dinantronic, it was warm to hot. Possibly from being a smaller unit and not retaining Heat as much. Maybe it could be from not needing to pop the little gasket to change settings and I don't have to grab or hold the unit tight like NM. I'm sure both have been tested, and both can manage under high temperature. When it's all said and done, everything gets really hot under the hood. The 3rd gen mini don't have the holes in the hood scoop like the previous generation (even that was minimal help)

Dragon- my name is Arjay by the way.

 

Well after combining the dinantronics with the scorpian de cat all i can say is its an animal we only had a scan gauge to check the temperature and all was fine . The scan gauge was reading 295 bhp and i no there not accurate but its a good guide.
If he goes to the dyno in a few weeks i will try to get a print out.

 

Look forward to the results. Would be nice to get some before/after results (map off/on) as it gives a better indication of the true gains of what the Dinan module gives.

 

will do,
we want to check the air fuel ratio is right

 

if this is an F56-S, then i'm going to guess 255-265.
assuming 91-93 octane fuel.

i pulled 265 with DP, my tune, and exhaust.
i pulled 275 with DP, my tune, exhaust, and intake.

good luck with the dyno.

 

its an f56 jcw marco running 99 ron fuel ( shell optimax ))

 

ok. 99 ron is the same as 93 over here.
i'm gonna guess 280, but that's on the high end. has dinan openly told how much extra boost they add with their tune? aggressive then yes i'd say 280...not so aggressive, i'd save in the 250's... again, just a guess here.

Marco

 

4 psi Marco to be fare we are not that bothered on the numbers as the car performed well its just to make sure the car is running safe.

 

Dragon.

Glad to hear about your results. Hope to see a sound clip or video soon. I'm sure it sounds amazing!

Marco,

Can't wait to eventually put a DP on my car. I've briefly talk online with Mario Palz about his. Unless something else better or comparable comes up, probably taking the MarioKart route.

 

i played the same waiting game with no luck. i was in the same position last year and pulled the trigger in march. so far noone has released one with a secondary bung.

 

http://www.jmturbocoopers.com/Mini-C...Down-Pipe.html

 

4 psi is similar to JB4 map1 boost which I got +34 hp +36 lbs on 99 RON

 

Thanks for that marco i did look into the jb4 but terry was not sure if the chrono package would clash. Then i saw the Dinan and thought plug and play with blue tooth for 300 dollars thats worth a punt .��

 

while i can't tell from the image, the notes about "CEL" seem to make it clear that this is another downpipe like all the others in that it doesn't have a secondary bung.

for US folks, they can deal with it but come inspection time, they're are f*cked.

 

yeah, that can be concerning (chrono package). i will say that for my track events (and frankly, for daily driving as well), i've left an OBDLINK LX plugged in and i've yet to have an issue. every once in a blue i'll get a P12A5 but it goes away on it's own.

 

Dinan: Getting close to deciding about a T-MAP intercept box. Is it just a fancy diode that somehow adjusts the voltage signal or is there some sort of software in the box that interprets the T-MAP signal and adjusts the signal in a more subtle or continuously variable fashion? I guess I'm asking if anyone can 'splain what, exactly, these magic boxes really do. I'm an IPhone plug 'n play kinda guy, but still, I gotta know what the genie in the box is doing to my car. And, speaking of IPhone, any word on when the D440-0012 will have an IPhone App? Thanks.

 

Thought I'd repost here in case any of you Power Up experts want to chime in:

Quote:
Originally Posted by fradaj View Post
I think the boxes have a processor/software that adds as much boost as possible without causing the CEL to come on. It may be a little more complicated than that but is basically what they do.

Fradaj: I think you may be correct. I've reached out to ECS and Dinan to see if we can get more specifics. No doubt users who have the NM Engineering Power Module and users with the Dinan SPT report they feel (and have measured) increased HP and torque. These boxes work.

I'm wondering how sophisticated the electronics are and I'm thinking the reason they work well is that they are doing more than simply uniformly stepping down the T-MAP voltage signal the ECU "sees." I believe there must be some algorithm or other software function in the box so that the spool up is smooth and the box-altered signal doesn't adversely impact deceleration turbo back pressure. Lots of variables on these complex engine management systems.

Not that any of this really matters if you get the extra boost and it doesn't smoke your engine. But it is so much more satisfying to understand the magic while feeling the boost. I hope Dinan or NM or others will enlighten us further.

 

[QUOTE=2017All4;4240231]Thought I'd repost here in case any of you Power Up experts want to chime in:

Quote:
Originally Posted by fradaj View Post
I think the boxes have a processor/software that adds as much boost as possible without causing the CEL to come on. It may be a little more complicated than that but is basically what they do.

Fradaj: I think you may be correct. I've reached out to ECS and Dinan to see if we can get more specifics. No doubt users who have the NM Engineering Power Module and users with the Dinan SPT report they feel (and have measured) increased HP and torque. These boxes work.

I'm wondering how sophisticated the electronics are and I'm thinking the reason they work well is that they are doing more than simply uniformly stepping down the T-MAP voltage signal the ECU "sees." I believe there must be some algorithm or other software function in the box so that the spool up is smooth and the box-altered signal doesn't adversely impact deceleration turbo back pressure. Lots of variables on these complex engine management systems.

Not that any of this really matters if you get the extra boost and it doesn't smoke your engine. But it is so much more satisfying to understand the magic while feeling the boost. [B]I hope Dinan or NM or others will enlighten us furthe

if you contact Dinan via there face book page they will get back to you and answer all your questions .( i think there box is a digital tuning unit)

 

https://goo.gl/photos/4xMc9RuwUq8wCNRQ7

A sound clip for.mini f55

 

iOS app is still with Apple in there seemingly endless approval process so your guess is as good as mine at this point.

As far as the magic behind the T-MAP boxes go... I wouldn't over complicate your thought process on this. =)

It plugs into a single sensor and has control over 1 parameter (boost). Can't do a whole lot of fancy manipulation with one data point. The real reason why they work so well is that the factory DME is smart and can adjust very quickly. So while the DME is reactionary it does it very quickly so that the percieved lag in between fixes is basically nil. The box itself will have some basic logic in it with some if-then statements such as "never go more/less then X boost or X will happen", and "don't add boost until you see X amount of base boost", etc so there will be some nuances in programming of where boost is coming and going but the reality is all the TMAP boxes will be VERY similar given the same boost.

Differences basically come down to extra features (BT, additional settings, etc), packaging / physical box design, and cost.