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0-20 is recommended on 2017 F55.. Does it have to be Euro version oil? Also, what is advantage of removing oil filter drain plug first over just removing entire housing in one shot? Thanks
 

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The oil you pick should be BMW Longlife-01 and BMW Longlife-01 FE spec.

If you don't drain the oil filter housing first, it will dump a bunch of oil on you. There's an oil change how to in the How to section.
 
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Originally Posted by n0b0dy
the oil you pick should be bmw longlife-01 and bmw longlife-01 fe spec.

if you don't drain the oil filter housing first, it will dump a bunch of oil on you. There's an oil change how to in the how to section.

ll14fe
 

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Yep you need to at least make sure it meets BMW’s requirements, hence the rating. I imagine it will end up being a Euro blend. There is endless debate over what the best oil is for our cars, but the consistent factor is the BMW LL-01.
I personally like using Liquid Moly, but opinions vary
 
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Yep you need to at least make sure it meets BMW’s requirements, hence the rating. I imagine it will end up being a Euro blend. There is endless debate over what the best oil is for our cars, but the consistent factor is the BMW LL-01.
I personally like using Liquid Moly, but opinions vary

The OP needs LL14FE (0W-20) not LL01 (0W-30)
He has a 2017 .
 
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The OP needs LL14FE (0W-20) not LL01
Oops! I was just looking at the label on a jug I have here for my N18.
Dont listen to me!
 
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The OP needs LL14FE (0W-20) not LL01 (0W-30)
He has a 2017 .




This is straight out of the 2019 Manual.
 
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DIY here if you need it and just match what the manual states.

MINI Cooper F56 Oil Change DIY : https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rocedures.html

Newer oils: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...il-change.html
 
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY




This is straight out of the 2019 Manual.

LL01 only comes 0w-30
LL14 is 0W-20

Hence my statement
The engine sticker will state which oil, as mine also says 0W-20
 
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
LL01 only comes 0w-30
LL14 is 0W-20

Hence my statement
The engine sticker will state which oil, as mine also says 0W-20
That might be true with MINI branded oil, but there are other brands of oil that at rated LL01 FE in 0W20
 
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Boy, this is getting interesting, lol.
Following along to learn something.
 
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That might be true with MINI branded oil, but there are other brands of oil that at rated LL01 FE in 0W20
Please name them.
 
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I know im resurrecting this thread but has anyone found a exact answer as to what oil should be used in the F56?

in threads like this people mention a TIS bulletin about them switching from 5W-30 to 0W-20
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r-ll-14fe.html

The new oil is also mentioned in this thread by ECS tuning
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-30-a3-b4.html


thanks for the help
for reference I have a 2.0L 2015 Cooper S F56
 
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Its Based on the year and sticker in the engine bay. MINI liked to change things up. lol
 
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Originally Posted by TheProfosist
I know im resurrecting this thread but has anyone found a exact answer as to what oil should be used in the F56?

in threads like this people mention a TIS bulletin about them switching from 5W-30 to 0W-20
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r-ll-14fe.html

The new oil is also mentioned in this thread by ECS tuning
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-30-a3-b4.html


thanks for the help
for reference I have a 2.0L 2015 Cooper S F56

To update I ended up contacting mini. Even for them it is a bit confusing as I ended up getting a call back for clarification/

BMW in general switched to 0W-20 in 2015

Since the F56 started in 2013 it initially shipped with 5W-30 starting in 2015 new ones started shipping with 0W-20. All 2016 and newer models should have shipped with 0W-20. Mini recommends switching to 0W-20 but if its lived its whole life with 5W-30 its fine. They do not recommend putting 5W-30 in one that shipped with 0W-20.


Hopefully this was helpful. Mini phone support was surprisingly prompt and nice to deal with.
 
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Not that helpfull, sorry. What the manual says is what matters. Simply.
 
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Not that helpfull, sorry. What the manual says is what matters. Simply.
The reason why I needed clarification is that different manuals say different things and some say both. I sought out an answer since all I found were vague references online. This was especially confusing for my car which was produced while they were changing over.
 
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Current MINI oil recommendations
 
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Thanks for that, we dont sell tanker or drums.

 
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Current MINI oil recommendations
Finally some hard facts!

 
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My 2018 S has 80,000 miles.
Been using Castrol European 5w-30.
 
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61,600 miles on my 2015 F56 and I use Royal Purple 0W20.
 
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Thanks for that, we dont sell tanker or drums.
Why not??
 
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