Electrical Countryman-Specific Coding - R60 Guide
Something else that needed to be added there is that the wire cluster that runs to the tach also does NOT have the wire needed to power the LEDs.
Hence, once the proper circuit in the BCM is found and tapped, we'll still need to run a new wire to the pin on the tach that is left out.
Hence, once the proper circuit in the BCM is found and tapped, we'll still need to run a new wire to the pin on the tach that is left out.
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Yikes!
This is an incredible example of determination! You guys are awesome! I wish I knew more about this stuff to be able to contribute in some worthwhile manner. I can create simple circuits and program an Arduino -- but something tells me that's my skills are at the "coloring book" level compared to "masters" level that GeoffreyM and theta have achieved!
(P.S. - GO PATS!)
This is an incredible example of determination! You guys are awesome! I wish I knew more about this stuff to be able to contribute in some worthwhile manner. I can create simple circuits and program an Arduino -- but something tells me that's my skills are at the "coloring book" level compared to "masters" level that GeoffreyM and theta have achieved!
(P.S. - GO PATS!)
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Hmmm.....ok, but since we are looking at either the SPEG or the KOMBI I can't imagine that the LEDS are taking instruction from something in the BCM. I would bet that getting power to the LEDS from the circuit board or the like that is running them would work. My R60 has the DWA_VERBAUT set to activ and my side scuttles flash and my blinkers flash when ever I set my locks. Also if I set off the "alarm" all the lights flash as if the car had an alarm. Just no noise. So, I would guess that the "alarm" behaviors are controlled by computer not a junction. Hope that sheds some more light.
Edit: the guy who originally posted this, Cherobyl, coded the SPEG and the KOMBI, which would indicate to me that the tach(KOMBI) controls something and that the reason that we can't get it to work is a physical connection. I will try to compare my wife's R55 tach to mine and see if I can see the physical difference.
Edit: the guy who originally posted this, Cherobyl, coded the SPEG and the KOMBI, which would indicate to me that the tach(KOMBI) controls something and that the reason that we can't get it to work is a physical connection. I will try to compare my wife's R55 tach to mine and see if I can see the physical difference.
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Yikes!
This is an incredible example of determination! You guys are awesome! I wish I knew more about this stuff to be able to contribute in some worthwhile manner. I can create simple circuits and program an Arduino -- but something tells me that's my skills are at the "coloring book" level compared to "masters" level that GeoffreyM and theta have achieved!
(P.S. - GO PATS!)
This is an incredible example of determination! You guys are awesome! I wish I knew more about this stuff to be able to contribute in some worthwhile manner. I can create simple circuits and program an Arduino -- but something tells me that's my skills are at the "coloring book" level compared to "masters" level that GeoffreyM and theta have achieved!
(P.S. - GO PATS!)
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hello,
in my old R55 (Clubman Cooper 2008) the LCD screen in the center of the tachometer could display the speed or time and temperature.
In my new countryman Cooper S November 2011 this screen can only display the speed.
is there a coding parameter to display the time and temp as in the clubman?
thank you
in my old R55 (Clubman Cooper 2008) the LCD screen in the center of the tachometer could display the speed or time and temperature.
In my new countryman Cooper S November 2011 this screen can only display the speed.
is there a coding parameter to display the time and temp as in the clubman?
thank you
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So when are you going to let me code yours?!!?
Hmmm.....ok, but since we are looking at either the SPEG or the KOMBI I can't imagine that the LEDS are taking instruction from something in the BCM. I would bet that getting power to the LEDS from the circuit board or the like that is running them would work. My R60 has the DWA_VERBAUT set to activ and my side scuttles flash and my blinkers flash when ever I set my locks. Also if I set off the "alarm" all the lights flash as if the car had an alarm. Just no noise. So, I would guess that the "alarm" behaviors are controlled by computer not a junction. Hope that sheds some more light.
Edit: the guy who originally posted this, Cherobyl, coded the SPEG and the KOMBI, which would indicate to me that the tach(KOMBI) controls something and that the reason that we can't get it to work is a physical connection. I will try to compare my wife's R55 tach to mine and see if I can see the physical difference.
Edit: the guy who originally posted this, Cherobyl, coded the SPEG and the KOMBI, which would indicate to me that the tach(KOMBI) controls something and that the reason that we can't get it to work is a physical connection. I will try to compare my wife's R55 tach to mine and see if I can see the physical difference.
Like I said, it's not something you can simply give power to from a switched source (or anything inside the tach - the power there is for mechanical and illumination) unless you want it to be on at all the wrong times.
The only way to do it will be to bring the wire that's missing (even at the passenger junction) directly from the originating module to the blank pin on the rear of the tach plug. I'm going to send you a wiring diagram to show you what needs to be done, and where we need to look.
Actually, I'll post the schematics here, in the interest of sharing the info with other engineers down the road. This will get us going in the right direction for sure:
These are the most important files, but be aware they're in Vector (SVG) format because of the nature of the schematic. You can get the viewer here if you don't have any professional programs on your computer: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/
Wiring Schematic 1
Wiring Schematic 2
Other files are attached to this post.
These are the most important files, but be aware they're in Vector (SVG) format because of the nature of the schematic. You can get the viewer here if you don't have any professional programs on your computer: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/
Wiring Schematic 1
Wiring Schematic 2
Other files are attached to this post.
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Just did this coding. It results in the center tach display element showing the ambient temperature on top and the clock underneath. The lower tach display element scrolls through the other options.
If you scroll one click past average speed, you see current speed for a second or two, and then the speed automatically transfers to the center tach display element (default behavior). The lower tach display element then shows the temperature and the odometer.
I am not sure if you can customize the content of the center tach display element when it is not showing the speed. Default (alternate) center tach display seems to be temp/clock only and not scrollable. Perhaps I just don't know how to display other content in the alternate display as my only other MINI is an R53.
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So, I checked an R56 manual from 2008 and realized that the behavior produced by this change is exactly like the "old" R56 behavior. Thanks for this GeoffreyM!
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I've received the câble and I will begin coding with this change tomorrow.
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So...I've been poking around as I become more familiar with changing the module setting and using the Expertmode to default a module. However, it occurred to me that it would be very handy if one could determine the Datens version used to last code the car. That way, one might be able to avoid making mistakes by used an older Datens file on a more recently coded module.
Do folks know of any way to determine coded Datens versions in advance to avert any potential of a mismatch?
Do folks know of any way to determine coded Datens versions in advance to avert any potential of a mismatch?
So...I've been poking around as I become more familiar with changing the module setting and using the Expertmode to default a module. However, it occurred to me that it would be very handy if one could determine the Datens version used to last code the car. That way, one might be able to avoid making mistakes by used an older Datens file on a more recently coded module.
Do folks know of any way to determine coded Datens versions in advance to avert any potential of a mismatch?
Do folks know of any way to determine coded Datens versions in advance to avert any potential of a mismatch?
If you have v42 Datens, and use v45 Datens to code it - great, but the car still has the v42 Datens.
There is no automatic way, nor is there a use, to be able to see what the car was recently programmed with - only the current Datens version that resides on the vehicle's DME. If you were so inclined, you could compare the number of lines (code lines) in a trace file to other Daten versions that you have copes of. That seems like an awful lot of work for no reason.
If you had uploaded a v45 file to that v42 car with all sort of new options, then over-wrote it with a v44, you may well lose all of those extra lines. But, at the end of the day, the v42 car couldn't care less about those lines as it couldn't read it in the first place.
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It wasn't negative -- it was factual. Thank you!
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Just got my cable a couple of days ago. I'm reviewing (ringing it through google translate) the CHAMP TRC file and found this:
Anybody tried to turn this on? Google says it translates to:
Also, wondering what these properties do:
Code:
ENTWICKLER_MENUE nicht_aktiv ENTWICKLER_MENUE_ASIEN nicht_aktiv
Code:
DEVELOPER MENU not active ASIA DEVELOPER MENU not active
Code:
CDMM_USB_AUDIO_DOUBLE TERMINAL_UI
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To update your EDIABAS / NCS-EXPERT installs to the latest v45 datens, follow these steps (after you extract the file):
1) Copy all files in the /ECU directory to C:\EDIABAS\ECU
2) Copy all files in the /SGDAT directory to C:\NCSEXPER\SGDAT
3) Open the DATEN folder, and run LADEN.BAT
Your EDIABAS and NCS Expert should now be updated to the v45 datens, and you're back on your way to coding the newly-updated vehicles.
What have I messed up here and should LADEN.BAT be run from the NCSEXPER folder or the R56 folder below it? It all seemed to run fine when I first did the install.