Hey Dom...You have no credibillity here since you no longer have the Mini. You were a figment of our imagination. Just like Fireballed Tuls' wussy twin (Tuls)! Before he killed him.

 

Hehehe! How's it going? Long time no see. How's the car running? So I had some credibility when I had a MINI? Careful there, you might make my head swell.

 

Things seem good out west -- 10 or so 164+ WHP (not engine), bone stock MCSs as delivered from the factory and stock valve trains that work all the way to and above 8800 RPM. That is quite impressive and something that I cannot match.

 

Actually..........it's out EAST where it worked out GREAT!


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But I do agree that this is not something I would not normally recommend.....

 

you have got to be kidding me!

Someone who has seen chris's car... has raced chris's car and has witnessed how fast that car is on numerous occasions, and has nothing to gain by saying how fast chris's car was in stock form chimes in and your reply is "I highly doubt it." well i can see that you obviously have an open mind...

My 2004 dark silver MCS was faster than an 04 JCW car in stock form... actually... chris was in the back seat when i raced a guy from a 3rd gear roll on the freeway elimintating driver skill!

Some cars come off of the line better than others... some cars were broken in in a differnt method than others... all of these things can/have made a huge difference.

 

so are you saying that all cars that have a torque curve that falls off are floating valves?

Remember these nascar engines that you are talking about are also push rod motors!

 

mmm...push rods....*drool*

 

maybe heat was killing your car past 7500... was the car pulling alot of timing?

 

That is correct. It's been known for decades.

 

I'm not speaking of any NASCAR engine.

 

Engine dyno -- all variables controlled for. How many others can say that!

 

You guys got it all figures out -- what more can I say. Bone stock cars that are making 20+ horsepower more than the factory inflated numbers, heads that make power to 8800 rpm. As I've said before, I cannot even touch that. But neither can BMW/Mini. I leave it at that.

 

probably as many "others" that can say that they are the fastest non-twincharged/non-nitrous assisted minis...

probably as many as "others" that can say that they have the worlds fastest MINI...

however many more "others" can say that they have made 160ish whp... not just west coast minis... but some floridians as well...

 

i remember earlier you threw out the term NASCAR...

 

the fireball car made a 10 second pass with a stock cylinder head... its a fact... i don't know what else to tell you... it reved to 8000+ rpms...

our spec race cars with stock heads rev to 7300 rpm... these cars have 12K race miles on them... and only race miles... some of the cars have 30k miles on them too... and no failures or anything...

 

I'm just asking...Did it ever occur to you that these dynos were reading a tad high? We are talking about bone stock cars, right?

 

Where should have my 2003 MCS been at with 15% pulley and Alta intake? Right around 165whp or 170whp, right? That's how much Tul's car had bone stock.

 

sure absolutely...

and then when another mini got on the rollers and made significantly less power... we determined... its not the dyno...

then we decided we would stop bench racing and ran against eachother... then it was determined that some cars are faster/more out of the box than others...

 

Not to ruin a great argument but what do NASCAR's and Mini's have in common?

 

exactly

 

All of these dyno's that give people high number's cannot simply be reading a "tad high" just because the numbers are high. Theses strong stock cars actually prove themselves to be strong when racing other more modded minis or at the drag strip. My car must just be one of those freakish west coast mini's!

 

i know it sounds crazy and out of the norm... but none of us have any reason to lie about this. It isn't a conspiracy against you. These are actual events... these are facts... these are things that took place, take place or have taken place. None of us have anything to gain or loose out of this. These are our experiances. Several of us have seen it/experianced it, and its not just the west coast!

 

It all depends on what you mean. They can have many things in common or none at all.

 

I'll leave the thread. However, my money back performance guarantee on my head still stands.

 

Don,

The problem with the money back guarantee is that the labor alone would make it not worth taking off anyway. Are you going to pay for the labor too?