All this talk lately about scoops and louvers etc has got me thinking...... the DFIC is a complete winner... a really great product...... why, because it turn the IC so it can take a direct hit of air and expell it.....why not a scoop for the intake..... surely there is a place on the bonnet where the air pressure/stream is right to take in massive amouns of fresh air ...... direct out of the engine bay.....away from any source of engine heat...... I am on a mission

 

sounds like an excelent idea. but where would you put it??????

 

There is an intake in the grill already but I am thinking much more aggressive.... work to be done by smarter people than me

 

Thats exactly where I was heading when I cut a hole in my hood just to the right and slightly behind the intercooler. Just have not had time to mock up a sealed box and figure out how to drain water out of it when it rains.(drill some holes in it I know) I do know that it has proven itself as a wonderful way of expelling hot air at a stoplight

 

Would be very hard to direct something through the front grills without a whole bunch of work.
Like Lampspeed, here is another hood scoop that many of you may remember

 

I take it you're meaning something discreet? Not like a direct input scoop or NACA duct cut into the hood right?

I've already specced some 3" silicone brake duct hose and have been bouncing ideas around in my head for quite a long time. Basic and simple is to cut the stock location to size and fit a brake duct inlet scoop there. Simple cheap and not too difficult. I only haven't because I hate hacking up my car
Using the fog light holes leads to a far too complicated run.
Next best option is to simply extend the existing cutout and have it terminate just behind the front grill. You could easliy double the inlet size but you're still cramming it through the same base dimension at the support opening. It would help but isn't ideal.


If you want to start cutting into the hood then more optioins open up. Not for me thank you. Now Sid on the other hand...................

EDIT: See above post

 

Any photos under the bonnet onasled?

 

I love it when Spidy takes off on a Holy Grail Quest. Appreciate he is still in the middle of his AGS install! always thinking ahead

This is a job for Sid!

Let me throw in 2 cents - think old school "shaker hood"(of course it wouldn't shake). We just need a taller HDI with an air induction opening.

 

Something like this?

 

Which means that the engine has to be injesting some of that hot air when stopped. If this was more square and directly over the air box, it would be more effective. Not as nice looking though.
Definitely seal it to the air filter/box, somehow.

 

I have also been tossing around the idea of some kind scoop/hole/direct inlet to the throttle body. I just haven't found the right filter to incorporate into the tract.

 

you stole my idea

 

It's not pretty, but not much on this car is...

 

How easily things are forgotten; https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...light=bomboasy

 

I was just out under the bonnet of my car and was thinking? Maybe this can work, But get away from the cone shape filter and go back to a flat panel! Then I pull the post up and whammo, Onasled post that picture. I also have been thinking about constructing the whole lot out of fiberglass as well. We may be on to something here.

Question. Is their any problems that would develop from bringing in air from Two different locations?
IE: The hole in my hood, and the factory location by the grille. I came up with an idea for a enclosed box that would bring air from both locations. using a flat panel filter. Also I think if you can bring the air intake closer to the front of the car, you can get the expansion tank and power steering resovoir away from the exhaust manifold(occupy the original location of airbox.

 

I was think outside the box I think we should start with a clean slate. I have removed the entire airbox assembly. Lower and upper. Wow we have alot of room once that crap is gone. oh yeah, a bracket has to be made to hold the ECU. I am also thinking combo air/air air water intercooling. I mean with the M7 VGS we can redesign everything from the intake to the intercooler to the intake manifold!!!!!!!! I think we are stuck on these cast intercooler runners. If we removed everything, someone has to be able to reinvent the wheel:impatient

 

While the inventors are at it-
Seal off the air box, Create an opening over the airbox and...

Install some silent flat fans to move air-
air out at stoplights to push the hot air out and air in when going or even passively off but still allows air from outside to enter into the airbox. Additional passive open areas on the hood opening for air to pass.

My kind of hood scoop-


Here is a neat pit vehicle by BC's Rob Murphy-


Matches his 57' Chevy Cameo Pick up

Or it is the other way around?

 

there are some ideas being kicked around

1) can we do something that most people will want like an intake that is not too invasive
2) if no holds are barred what can we accomplish

 

That is a great paintjob!
How would a MINI roof look with the checkers?

 

Was thinking the exact same thing...
I still need a paint scheam for the racecar....

 

Bob, I like where you are going with this.

For option 1 am I correct in assuming you are thinking about a some type of hose that may run to a lower grill in the bumper and then straight up to the airfilter? For example that is?

For option 2 I see where you want something cut into the bonet but I still have trouble seeing how something can be designed to use in the rain. I realize that you may custom make a plug but while driving down the road and gettin caught in the rain or being a moron like I tend to be and forget the special cover could be a costly issue.

Just curious about your thoughts.

oh and it was good to see you in Greenville. You will have to let me know when you go to pickup your car so I can swing up there.

chris

 

The only thing I think about is a large hood scoop, that would cool both the intercooler on one side, and bring extra cold air to the airbox.

 

As I mentioned before shaker style.

If you take a HDI box and increase the sides so that the CAI box protrudes thru the hood (2" appr.) and add a fiberglass top with ram opening.

Something like the 455 transam 455 that it would rotated 180 degrees so the scoop faces forward or this mustang.

http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com...system2005.jpg

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That is actually a good idea. I wonder how that scoop would fit on the MINI hood. I have a
Ford dealer right across from my work, I think i'll go take some measurements at lunch.
BTW, sweet Mustang!

 

I was thinking something like this...

mated directly to the throttle body,
and an intake hose going in the top of it.
The intake hose would be positioned in such
a way that a corresponding hole/scoop in the
hood would mate to it when closed.