The flat spot that you guys are talking about, is that the same as the delay in the gas pedal? If your in nuetral and put the gas to the floor as fast as you can you there is a slight delay before the engine starts to rev up. You can almost get your foot to the floor before it starts to rev. Is that the same thing? If not I have no idea what your talking about.

 

so not true....i have the MTH tuner file and have the same flat spot

 

bambam

The 'flat spot' occurs with part throttle at around 3000 rpm. I'm not sure this is exactly the problem you are describing.

1FSTMINI

I notice that your a Dinan rep for the New York area, and as such you must be very familiar with Dinan software. Not to put you on the spot, but does Dinan also have the 'flat spot'?
And how does your MTH file compare to Dinan in your experience? Say for comparison, MTH tuner file and Dinan stage 5?
Any help with this is very much appreciated and would help solve my software dilemma.

 

OK.... I have my Halon and Nomex... I had this problem to an extreme and the M7 Plasma Booster helped more than anything....... they are still available from Mini Mania or Moss ... not sure but someone..... I would not buy one new look for a used one and try it... Used ones were selling for about $75..... don't contact M7 ,... you'll give Peter a heart attack....

The unichip custom tune also helped.... I have listened to about 100 theories on why this happens but no one has really totally cleared it up..... I have driven cars that have no symptoms at all (you lucky people) so there are many people that are happy and have no idea what we are talking about

 

Mine pulls strong at 3000 and above so I guess yours is different then mine.

 

Actually mine does too now...... there are some that are not as fortunate

 

Ill let you know when the updated chip comes in for me to flash my car to dinan stage 5-6

 

The 3000 rpm flat spot has led me to a real love-hate relationship with MINI. The most disappointing thing about this whole issue is that MINI has essentially turned their backs on their customers and used the flimsy excuse of "just have it re-flashed to the latest version" solution! My theory is that MINI wants to avoid addressing the issue due to the potentially high costs of mass repairs, have the 2nd generation MINI rolled-out, and then the 1st generation MINI problems become "ancient" and they no longer have to deal with their 1st generation owners.
Right now, my best solution is to try to avoid "partial" throttle whenever possible and apply "full throttle"... which interestingly, makes the flat spot go away!
I truly love this car and I love what the MINI brand stands for in the automotive world. It's sad that MINI corporate won't step-up and try to keep its brand loyalists the happiest customers they have! What a shame and disappointment from such a world-class brand as MINI/BMW.

 

IFSTMINI
That would be terrific.
Another question; is there a flat spot in Dinan Sage 3 software?

 

havent had customers complain about this in the past so i wanna say no. but ill keep u updated when i do my own

 

I noticed that on my car, the ecu took a couple of days of driving to clear up my flat spot issues. After I ported the head, changed valved and changed the exhaust, I took it out for a run and was really bummed out. After a hand full driving, It all cleared up and I got the power I desired.
EXCEPT... My car is leaning out at the top! I would like for someone to tell me how to get the fuel I need at high RPM's and what the dinan 6 software can handle. Is a ported port matched head and header too much for it to keep up?
Also I dont have the $900.00 fuel tank system and my budget wont allow me to purchace it. Is there another way out? Can I change only the fuel regulator? Are larger injectors the answer? Do I have to spend over a thousand dollars to get this tank system when I allready have a pulley (which comes with the system) Isn't the stock fuel pump good enough?!!

 

SAFC-II and a good dyno shop to tune it

 

My Stage 3 update.

I went a couple of weeks ago to get the Stage 3 download after I installed the CAI. They could not do it because there was no download for the '06 yet.

Dinan told them any day now it should be out and that they will honor the 50% discount if it comes out after the sale.

 

You say SAFC but what about fuel pressure? What fuel pressure is run at the fuel rail? What if I increased the pressure with a higher pressure regulator?
Isnt an SAFC self learning like a piggyback system or does it require tinkering with a smart mechanic and an air to fuel ratio readout and horsepower testing. Thankyou again!

 

These cars have pleanty of fuel pressure but the injectors arent big enough for added mods....You can tweak the air/fuel ( SAFC ) to tune wut you have or you can even go a step further and put bigger injectors in as well....Fuel pressure means nothing if your injectors cant flow enough to show for it.

 

I guess that getting an SAFC and bigger injectors will do the job, but I am still wondering what the difference is between Dinan's fuel upgrade and the stock configuration. Is there any difference in any way.

 

Dinan now has the Stage III for the '05 and '06 in the last update that was sent out to the dealers.

Just got the download yesterday and have noticed no flat spots FWIW.

So, far....very cool.

 

Yeah, I drove 2hrs to get the Stage III for my '05 this morning and was very ticked off when it would not download. I got a loaner and left my car there for them to figure out Monday. I paid for the stuff 5 months ago.
Dinan better figure something out.

Shawn

 

I have a stage 5 waiting for me to pick up at MINI of Nashville shortly.
Can't wait.

 

Your not the only one....Ive been waiting over a year for mine and it still wont take with the new chip we got so ill be calling them monday to flip out AGAIN

 

Congrats on stage 5 QueenB. You'll love it. I have had stage 5 now for about 8 months for my 05 pre 10-04.

 

The stock fuel pump is more than enough. Dinan as far as I'm concerned went a different way(just to be different) The works kit comes with larger injectors for a reason. If you get Works 380 or M7 400 injectors it should clear up your lean condition, and save $. My set up is equal to the JCW and the Dinan in Hp. Good Luck

 

BLKDINAN has recently graduated from DINAN Stage 3 software with an Ultrik 15% reduction pulley to DINAN Stage 5 with Stage 3 suspension - now designated S2 with engine plaque. Acceleration without hesitation, all the way, and very stable. Excellent results.
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Shawn, it might be your dealer. Dinan has sent out the new download just a week or so ago. They might still be using the old one. Our '06 had no problems with the latest version.

 

I just hope it's something they can figure out soon.
I'm starting to think my car has a one of a kind computer or something.

Shawn