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Old 08-21-2019, 04:27 AM
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Clutch and Timing Chain Replacement

My Clubman recently ticked over the 100,000 mile mark, and I’ve been getting a little nervous about the timing chain. Also, the clutch has started getting grabby when downshifting, so I’m thinking it’s on its way out, too.

So, question to you guys... I am pretty good around the garage, and have performed other tasks on the Mini. Is there any reason why I shouldn’t think I can’t handle these two operations? Mechanically, they seem pretty straight forward, but the engine bay is pretty tight. I have also not performed these tasks on a modern engine with torque to yield bolts.
 
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:21 AM
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I replaced the flywheel/pressure plate/clutch (Valeo kit) on my R53. It's not a simple job but it's doable if you can turn a wrench and have a buddy to help you get the trans back in. It could easily be done over a weekend. Same thing with the timing chain though you will need a special tool to lock the camshafts when installing the new chain/guides. Both are a great way to learn about your car.
 
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:16 AM
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I replaced the flywheel/pressure plate/clutch (Valeo kit) on my R53. It's not a simple job but it's doable if you can turn a wrench and have a buddy to help you get the trans back in. It could easily be done over a weekend. Same thing with the timing chain though you will need a special tool to lock the camshafts when installing the new chain/guides. Both are a great way to learn about your car.
I am prepared to buy whatever tools might be needed. Right now, I'm trying to filter through all the options for the clutch and flywheel....
 
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I managed both on my own using an engine bracket/hoist over the wings (if that makes sense) and a length of webbing to support the gearbox in and out.
Both jobs are managable with a decent manual, I used Haynes. While the subframe is out you could consider poly bushings for the rear wishbone bushes and renew your anti roll bar bushes as these are inaccessible without the sub out.
When you disconnect the steering knuckle inside the footwell, try to keep everything including the steering wheel in the same place to prevent the steering angle being off when reassembled, I used gaffa tape and marker pen.
Replace the crankshaft seal and the gearbox input shaft seal plus drive shaft seals, these are cheap and worth doing. Don't reuse the gearbox oil of course!
Took me three days to do the lot but was first time and could probably do it again in half that time. Good luck. The cash you save will more than pay for any tools.
 
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:06 AM
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You can handle it. I've seen your posts from other issues and upgrades, this won't be a walk in the park, but your experience adds up. You'll be fine. Plus, you have us to support if you run into any issues. Just be patient with the work because if you try to rush through it, it'll backfire easily especially on the timing bit.
 
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As said above, it can be done by the DIY'r, just don't try to rush the job. Instead of using a manual (I prefer Bentley to Haynes) take a look at this newTIS procedure, for my '07MCS --- https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/r...aft/1VnY7d2Xnh Use your own VIN last seven characters to get the exact procedure for your car. Also, while you're in the website, do a document search for replacing the flywheel, then consider combining the two procedures. Both are written for doing the job with the engine still in the car. Some of the special tools can be "worked around", just be sure to achieve the specific task without doing damage to anything.

Scudder44 has good advice for "while you're in there". Altho, so far there hasn't been an equivalent tranny oil substitute for OEM, so good luck choosing an alternative. Also, are you considering other upgrades --- LSD, light flywheel, etc --- more "while you're in there" stuff?
 
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Thanks for the confidence boosters!

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As said above, it can be done by the DIY'r, just don't try to rush the job. Instead of using a manual (I prefer Bentley to Haynes) take a look at this newTIS procedure, for my '07MCS --- https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/r...aft/1VnY7d2Xnh Use your own VIN last seven characters to get the exact procedure for your car. Also, while you're in the website, do a document search for replacing the flywheel, then consider combining the two procedures. Both are written for doing the job with the engine still in the car. Some of the special tools can be "worked around", just be sure to achieve the specific task without doing damage to anything.

Scudder44 has good advice for "while you're in there". Altho, so far there hasn't been an equivalent tranny oil substitute for OEM, so good luck choosing an alternative. Also, are you considering other upgrades --- LSD, light flywheel, etc --- more "while you're in there" stuff?
I’ve been running Redline MTL in the gearbox.

Ive considered an LSD upgrade, but haven’t looked at the installation for it. Is it as easy as pulling the old one and dropping in the new one with new bearings? Is there a gear alignment procedure?
 
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:22 AM
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Thanks for the confidence boosters!



I’ve been running Redline MTL in the gearbox.

Ive considered an LSD upgrade, but haven’t looked at the installation for it. Is it as easy as pulling the old one and dropping in the new one with new bearings? Is there a gear alignment procedure?
I've seen a vendors video that shows it as a "plug-n-play", but no first hand experience. Maybe a youtube search?
 
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